Tomestones.. Again.. for a relic..

[LianaThorne]

I just don't understand that some of the same people who want more for the relic grind are also the same people doing the bare minimum and only getting one.

I understand that if you're only getting one it sucks. But go for more? That way you're not logging in, buying the one weapon with tomes you've already accumulated, and then being upset that you're done. Put in the effort to get more, since they're so easy. Even if it's for classes you don't use.

And for the people saying youcan get a weapon with one day of roulettes, that's only possible if you get new people. And as I've been at 0 retries on my journal for a few weeks now, I'm starting to believe they don't exist.

The relic can only be "done in 5 minutes" if you're only doing one. You're sending mixed messages if you're wanting for more while doing the least.

Hunt trains. Get a weapon in 2h. Can do multiple a day by server hopping for trains.

[Deceptus]

Hunt trains. Get a weapon in 2h. Can do multiple a day by server hopping for trains.

I don't know about this, I joined more than a few hunt trains and didn't get 1500 tomes in a run, unless your talking about doing one and then server hopping (basically non stop for 2 hours)

I do not know, why Square Enix is so incapable of understanding what the players want, and what they complain about.

- Atmas:
The main reason people complained about Atmas is not that you have to grind FATEs. It's that the drops are RNG. Only the fact that the drop rate is RNG was a problem there. If you had to grind out 5x as many Atmas but they were always 100% drop rate, people wouldn't have complained by far as much. And you could see with the Augmented Resistance weapon (iLvl 500, grinding HW FATEs) that no one complained about the grind itself. The complaint was a wholly different matter (see Bozja later)

Preach. Every time I want to go back and do an old ARR relic I hit the atmas, do 20 fates without a single drop and remember how much I hated this.

- Books:
The main reason people complained about books was not what you had to do, but how you had to do it. 90% of the time grinding for books is spent running around & teleporting from location to location. And you had to do that for 12 books. That's the most annoying part. If you only had to do 3 books with everything 4x it would've been MUCH better already, because you didn't have to teleport 120x for the enemies, 36x for the leves and 36+ times for the FATEs (because once again: RNG spawn).

Yep if the books were only Big book of Dungeons 1-3 , Big book of Fates 1-3 (specific continents per book), Big book of enemies 1-3 (again based on continent) it wouldn't have been so bad.