Tomestones.. Again.. for a relic..

[ty_taurus]

That’s what I’m saying, how many jobs in the game there are shouldn’t have any effect on new relic grinds because they aren’t designed to get every single one of them, EW should be no easier than ARR just because there is more jobs because you should still only be going for 1 or maybe 2 relics, this has nothing to do with retroactively adding new jobs to old relic grinds

The idea to make the first relic hard and subsequent easier is decent but still leaves you in the situation where it makes the subsequent relics way too easy; the relics should take a long time to get, not just be useless trinkets you dump in the glamour drawer like your 6 full sets of aglaia gear

Completionists are a subcategory of player, and there's no reason not to make the collection of additional relics gradually quicker for the players that want to collect them all to keep that task within a reasonable margin so long as the initial grind to collect your first still feels engaging and rewarding. What value is there in alienating a community of players for something that doesn't have an effect on the player who only gets 1?

[IkaraGreydancer]

casual mindset.

this game is slowly being ruined by the casual community.

Xiv was never a hardcore game. This ain't XI and never has been. The game being causal is a big part of why it's been successful and will continue to be. MMOs like WoW n BDO take care of the hardcore n I like that balance

[Velnora]

The weapon isn't even equivalent to a savage weapon, for some inane reason.

[LaylaTsarra]

The weapon isn't even equivalent to a savage weapon, for some inane reason.

It would make raiders mad. It was never meant to be better or equivalent. Relics have traditionally become the best weapon only at the very end of the cycle just before the next expansion.

[Knot_D]

DR was actual content added to the game, so if we could have gotten something like that, I'd rather risk it being unfun than just a basic tome grind. Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I'd rather have something new than just more roulette spam.

Actual content? I don't even see anyone love it, instead they despite this content because DR is just a waste of lost essence, and you had to spam every 30 mins only for 1 relic? A waste of content indeed (Same with DRS).

The difference between this and Anima is that there were other options to get drops. Some steps did strictly require poetics but you weren't forced into that if you enjoyed grinding them other ways for most of them. They offered dungeon running options, crafting options, doing weeklies, etc. Those required tomestone steps also weren't back to back like they are with the Manderville relics.

I mean by spend 1.5k tomestones (or 3k), you can have different way to farm them tomestones and not strictly with 1 content, so that argument already moot at this point.

HW relic had 5 stages by this point in the patch cycle, and none were an exact copy of the previous stage. So no, they are not comparable.

Are you sure? it's just different step but required same poetics to spent on.

[Listrella]

The weapon isn't even equivalent to a savage weapon, for some inane reason.

why the hell would the give you a savage tier weapon for so little effort? if getting the relic was actually a challenge then you might have a point, but this is insultingly easy, just be glad it's as high as it is, it's by far the easiest way to get this tier of weapon right now.

[Nizzi]

The weapon isn't even equivalent to a savage weapon, for some inane reason.

Why do you care about a weapon being equivalent to current tier savage weapons if you don't do savage lmao

[Supersnow845]

Actual content? I don't even see anyone love it, instead they despite this content because DR is just a waste of lost essence, and you had to spam every 30 mins only for 1 relic? A waste of content indeed (Same with DRS).



I mean by spend 1.5k tomestones (or 3k), you can have different way to farm them tomestones and not strictly with 1 content, so that argument already moot at this point.



Are you sure? it's just different step but required same poetics to spent on.

This last comment shows you have no idea how the old relics worked

Launch anima looks nothing like current anima and at this current point had little to do with poetics

[Knot_D]

This last comment shows you have no idea how the old relics worked

Launch anima looks nothing like current anima and at this current point had little to do with poetics

To be fair at my post I don't count trading zodiac weapon and do dungeon because my point mostly about how the poetics spent, but sure I'm wrong at that one point.

[boopadoop]

i think old relics should be done with tomestones and new relics should have the different things to do even if it's old content to do