Tomestones.. Again.. for a relic..

[Saraide]

Well this is exactly what I did both of these steps because I already had the 1500 tomes. So it was literally zero effort, zero achivement, zero reason to log in the next day or the rest of the month that I subbed for.

And I dont want to get a relic for all 19 jobs. The vast majority of jobs I level to 90 and then don't touch until the next expansion (because theres no max level content to do on them (this is what the relic should be!!) outside of raiding).

Why get a relic at all then?

[Ajayrious]

Why get a relic at all then?

Well, in past expansions, to give me something to do in the game between patches.. and a nice glowy weapon for my main job to go into the next expansion with.

In Endwalker, with these two steps. Not really sure to be honest.

[Saraide]

Well, in past expansions, to give me something to do in the game between patches.. and a nice glowy weapon for my main job to go into the next expansion with.

In Endwalker, with these two steps. Not really sure to be honest.

The first two steps of the shb relic were useless trash aswell. If you just want to have something to do then just farm more of them. There you have something to do.

[Ajayrious]

The first two steps of the shb relic were useless trash aswell. If you just want to have something to do then just farm more of them. There you have something to do.

As I said, i dont want to just farm tomes doing the same roulettes over and over again. ShB first step was trash, but the 2nd step was Bozja which actually took a couple of weeks of effort (which i know people are allergic to).

My happiest time in the game was during Stormblood, just casually logging in and working on my Eureka relic. Made some good friends and communities through that. (Isnt that what MMOs are supposed to be about?) Just logging in to do the same roulettes day after day and grinding tomes isnt the same at all, no matter how many weapons you want to do.

[Xirean]

As I said, i dont want to just farm tomes doing the same roulettes over and over again. ShB first step was trash, but the 2nd step was Bozja which actually took a couple of weeks of effort (which i know people are allergic to).

My happiest time in the game was during Stormblood, just casually logging in and working on my Eureka relic. Made some good friends and communities through that. (Isnt that what MMOs are supposed to be about?) Just logging in to do the same roulettes day after day and grinding tomes isnt the same at all, no matter how many weapons you want to do.

As cool is Eureka was my main gripe with it (aside from the insane grind that it was) is that it didn't let me be in que for roulettes while inside. This step working this way basically lets people "casually log in and work on their relics" without being confined to a specific exploratory zone. You don't have to do roulettes if you don't want to. There are other options for getting tomestones. This relic step doesn't lock you out of the rest of the game and I really enjoy that. Now if people wanted more pieces to this step that's a somewhat fair critique/request, but I personally really like that it is so open. Especially considering you have to do all of Hildibrand just to get access.

[Saraide]

As I said, i dont want to just farm tomes doing the same roulettes over and over again. ShB first step was trash, but the 2nd step was Bozja which actually took a couple of weeks of effort (which i know people are allergic to).

My happiest time in the game was during Stormblood, just casually logging in and working on my Eureka relic. Made some good friends and communities through that. (Isnt that what MMOs are supposed to be about?) Just logging in to do the same roulettes day after day and grinding tomes isnt the same at all, no matter how many weapons you want to do.

If you dont want to grind tomes with just roulettes, there are other ways of getting tomes aswell. You talk about people being allergic to effort but you are literally that yourself. You just want the game to tell you want to do. 0 interest in deciding something for yourself.

[Xeronia]

If you dont want to grind tomes with just roulettes, there are other ways of getting tomes aswell. You talk about people being allergic to effort but you are literally that yourself. You just want the game to tell you want to do. 0 interest in deciding something for yourself.

While true I think my issue is this doesn't help content that has issues with wait times at all. I had expected stuff like Eden, Omega, Nier, Ivalice, or Stormblood dungeons as all of those have wait time issues. I could go do those sure but none of them offer astronomy.

[TomsYoungerBro]

If you dont want to grind tomes with just roulettes, there are other ways of getting tomes aswell. You talk about people being allergic to effort but you are literally that yourself. You just want the game to tell you want to do. 0 interest in deciding something for yourself.

Lazy design. Creating content that funnels players into already flourishing content instead of tying it to content that needs a little more life (Alliance raids, Criterion, etc.) is hilarious. Did you know that the current Savage and Ultimate does not give astronomy tomes?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Lazy design. Creating content that funnels players into already flourishing content instead of tying it to content that needs a little more life (Alliance raids, Criterion, etc.) is hilarious. Did you know that the current Savage and Ultimate does not give astronomy tomes?

Current tiers of savage have never given unlocked tomes.



And the biggest fix for alliance raids is to make it so you have to have a min ilvl for the highest raid unlocked on the job you queue with. So ilvl cheese can't happen.