Tomestones.. Again.. for a relic..

[Kolaina]

People who pay a sub to play this game..? c.c,,

I am rather questioning the sanity of people who pay a sub to not play the game...

Can still play the game. Playing is required to gather the tomes needed.

I suspect the people who want the excruciating grind only do a handful of relics, if more than 1, and go back to bees kneesing in Limsa. Because people do pay their sub to do just that.

I do not want an excruciating grind to be able to obtain every relic. I should be able to get home from work and not feel this game has become a second job, I should feel like I can do other things, play other games, or log into my potato alt.

Farm X number of (insert old content here), or grind X fates in an old expansion are not more content or more diverse than collect set number of tomes.

[LianaThorne]

Can still play the game. Playing is required to gather the tomes needed.

I suspect the people who want the excruciating grind only do a handful of relics, if more than 1, and go back to bees kneesing in Limsa. Because people do pay their sub to do just that.

I do not want an excruciating grind to be able to obtain every relic. I should be able to get home from work and not feel this game has become a second job, I should feel like I can do other things, play other games, or log into my potato alt.

Farm X number of (insert old content here), or grind X fates in an old expansion are not more content or more diverse than collect set number of tomes.

As someone who did multiple ShB relics (I believe 6-8), I enjoyed the grind. It gave me fulfillment and also motivated me to push for some harder achievements in Bozja/Zadnor since I liked it so much. I'm also deathly allergic to Limsa and the bees knees, if you didn't know.

I just wish it was something *more* than just: plz gib 1500 tomestones x2. Like, literally anything other than just a repeat of the first step. It could have been a custom dungeon that you only need to run once to get the drop you need to upgrade and takes 10m to complete or completing a FATE specific for the relic twice that doesn't involve RNG. Like, literally anything. Just, I'm hoping it adds more over time than just a continuous tomestone turn in and we get to see some of what I and others were used to from previous relics.

[Lak14]

Can still play the game. Playing is required to gather the tomes needed.

I suspect the people who want the excruciating grind only do a handful of relics, if more than 1, and go back to bees kneesing in Limsa. Because people do pay their sub to do just that.

I do not want an excruciating grind to be able to obtain every relic. I should be able to get home from work and not feel this game has become a second job, I should feel like I can do other things, play other games, or log into my potato alt.

Farm X number of (insert old content here), or grind X fates in an old expansion are not more content or more diverse than collect set number of tomes.

casual mindset.

this game is slowly being ruined by the casual community.

[Saraide]

casual mindset.

this game is slowly being ruined by the casual community.

A goal of relics is to have a casual alternative to savage weapons.

[Supersnow845]

A goal of relics is to have a casual alternative to savage weapons.

Yes and one that requires an alternative level of effort; not substituting progging a full tier for one day of roulettes

[Lak14]

A goal of relics is to have a casual alternative to savage weapons.

casual player don't care about weapon stats, they just want glowing weapons without any effort.

[Saraide]

casual player don't care about weapon stats, they just want glowing weapons without any effort.

Tons of casual players buy crafted gear when it launches. They do care about ilvl.

[Vahlnir]

Tons of casual players buy crafted gear when it launches. They do care about ilvl.

It has the added benefit of being a future investment, too. A patch or so down the line, it becomes upgradeable for free (and by free I mean via tomestones). I never used to bother, but when I learned about that, it became a must for my alt jobs.

[Lak14]

Tons of casual players buy crafted gear when it launches. They do care about ilvl.

they still don't, they buy crafted gear just for glamour.

[Shinkuno]

Tons of casual players buy crafted gear when it launches. They do care about ilvl.

because they are locked out of roulettes and alliance raids, if there was no ilvl lock, youd see people with the free lv89 gear in the newest raids

Didn't you use tomestones for the first ARR relics to buy items to upgrade them on the first stages.

after materia melding a base weapon to even begin the relic process, then going out on slaying some monster with your "incomplete" relic

the tomestone mats was the second step. This time you just buy your relic