Tomestones.. Again.. for a relic..

[IkaraGreydancer]

People who pay a sub to play this game..? c.c,,

I am rather questioning the sanity of people who pay a sub to not play the game...

Yet you have to play to amass the 1.5k so this post is off. Yall are talking like you can move your character 3 meters and be done

[NekoMataMata]

Yet you have to play to amass the 1.5k so this post is off. Yall are talking like you can move your character 3 meters and be done

People are simplifying it a lot, but they're not wrong.

The Relic steps should be unique and make you experience different pieces of content in-game.

[LaylaTsarra]

People are simplifying it a lot, but they're not wrong.

The Relic steps should be unique and make you experience different pieces of content in-game.

Yes but after thinking about this I'll take a tomestone grind to running LOTA or Orbonne etc ad naueum for tokens/drops whatever which is certainly not fun in my view. I can still remember vividly running Quarn Hard 50 times before i got my relic drop. I am not a fan of the HW blueprint for relic and In lieu of a real Exploratory Zone or totally new relic focused content I'll do my hunts and tomestone grind and be happy with it.

For me I hope exploratory zones will be back in 7.0. Certainly too late for that and hopefully not too late for the team to rethink this and give them back to us with the new xpac.

[Ajayrious]

Yet you have to play to amass the 1.5k so this post is off. Yall are talking like you can move your character 3 meters and be done

Well this is exactly what I did both of these steps because I already had the 1500 tomes. So it was literally zero effort, zero achivement, zero reason to log in the next day or the rest of the month that I subbed for.

And I dont want to get a relic for all 19 jobs. The vast majority of jobs I level to 90 and then don't touch until the next expansion (because theres no max level content to do on them (this is what the relic should be!!) outside of raiding).

[LianaThorne]

Well this is exactly what I did both of these steps because I already had the 1500 tomes. So it was literally zero effort, zero achivement, zero reason to log in the next day or the rest of the month that I subbed for.

Piggybacking off this,

As I said earlier about hunts, you can literally just join a party with a tank, smack the boss once and then afk and get credit. So technically you can do the bare minimum and not even play and get your tomestones.

[Saraide]

Well this is exactly what I did both of these steps because I already had the 1500 tomes. So it was literally zero effort, zero achivement, zero reason to log in the next day or the rest of the month that I subbed for.

And I dont want to get a relic for all 19 jobs. The vast majority of jobs I level to 90 and then don't touch until the next expansion (because theres no max level content to do on them (this is what the relic should be!!) outside of raiding).

Why get a relic at all then?

[Ajayrious]

Why get a relic at all then?

Well, in past expansions, to give me something to do in the game between patches.. and a nice glowy weapon for my main job to go into the next expansion with.

In Endwalker, with these two steps. Not really sure to be honest.

[Saraide]

Well, in past expansions, to give me something to do in the game between patches.. and a nice glowy weapon for my main job to go into the next expansion with.

In Endwalker, with these two steps. Not really sure to be honest.

The first two steps of the shb relic were useless trash aswell. If you just want to have something to do then just farm more of them. There you have something to do.

[Ajayrious]

The first two steps of the shb relic were useless trash aswell. If you just want to have something to do then just farm more of them. There you have something to do.

As I said, i dont want to just farm tomes doing the same roulettes over and over again. ShB first step was trash, but the 2nd step was Bozja which actually took a couple of weeks of effort (which i know people are allergic to).

My happiest time in the game was during Stormblood, just casually logging in and working on my Eureka relic. Made some good friends and communities through that. (Isnt that what MMOs are supposed to be about?) Just logging in to do the same roulettes day after day and grinding tomes isnt the same at all, no matter how many weapons you want to do.

[Xirean]

As I said, i dont want to just farm tomes doing the same roulettes over and over again. ShB first step was trash, but the 2nd step was Bozja which actually took a couple of weeks of effort (which i know people are allergic to).

My happiest time in the game was during Stormblood, just casually logging in and working on my Eureka relic. Made some good friends and communities through that. (Isnt that what MMOs are supposed to be about?) Just logging in to do the same roulettes day after day and grinding tomes isnt the same at all, no matter how many weapons you want to do.

As cool is Eureka was my main gripe with it (aside from the insane grind that it was) is that it didn't let me be in que for roulettes while inside. This step working this way basically lets people "casually log in and work on their relics" without being confined to a specific exploratory zone. You don't have to do roulettes if you don't want to. There are other options for getting tomestones. This relic step doesn't lock you out of the rest of the game and I really enjoy that. Now if people wanted more pieces to this step that's a somewhat fair critique/request, but I personally really like that it is so open. Especially considering you have to do all of Hildibrand just to get access.