Tomestones.. Again.. for a relic..

[Absimiliard]

No I'm not, you can go back in the thread and see people doing just that (and a similar reply I made). Stop calling me insane.

Don't bother with that one. It shows up periodically to vent its insecurities on the forums.

You could take literally any slice of the games population and say the same exact thing.

"Oh, so we're just going to pretend a portion of the island sanctuary community didn't very vocally deride relic grinds. humph!"

Stop trying to speak for a group of people you probably don't even interact with.

Hm, that's funny. I didn't realize something that can be verified through a quick search and specifically used the phrase "a portion of" required "speaking for" anyone. Nice try, though. And extra points for calling my raid experience into question in some vague, ill-fated attempt to devalue something you felt personally attacked by.

[LittleImp]

Hm, that's funny. I didn't realize something that can be verified through a quick search required "speaking for" anyone. Nice try, though. And extra points for calling my raid experience into question in some vague, ill-fated attempt to devalue something you felt personally attacked by.

The incredibly strong, indisputable position of 'It's true because I say it's true'.

I called your raid experience into question because anyone who has spent any amount of time in the raiding community would know precisely how stupid it is to try to treat it like some kind of monolith with anything approaching a unified opinion on anything.

Keep grinding that axe.

Don't bother with that one. It shows up periodically to vent its insecurities on the forums.

I too love irony.

[Iyrnthota]

Keep grinding that axe.

I too love irony.

Perfection

[Absimiliard]

The incredibly strong, indisputable position of 'It's true because I say it's true'.

I called your raid experience into question because anyone who has spent any amount of time in the raiding community would know precisely how stupid it is to try to treat it like some kind of monolith with anything approaching a unified opinion on anything.

If by "raiding community" you mean PF, you'd be correct in that assertion. I do not associate with that particular part of the community outside of very specific circumstances. At any rate, you're upset over nothing. Me saying a portion of the raiding community had a problem with relics, which they factually did, does not change the fact that other portions of it didn't. I'm not accusing you or anyone else of anything, dude. I am observing that, at one point in time, there truly was a very vocal lot from that part of the game complaining up a storm about relic weapons, the grinds, etc. That doesn't mean opinions haven't changed over the years. One does not need to go ask every single person in a community what they think when they can read various media to read for themselves what is being said. These things seldom reflect the majority, but they do none the less make it into the public eye. That's just sorta how social media works. You have your vocal portion of the community, then your silent portion. Referencing one opinion does not invalidate the other.

I think most of us would honestly prefer relics stop sucking and require more than doing like three quests and handing in some tomestones. Making them suck does nobody any good. It makes it harder for less advanced statics (and most PF groups) to progress, and it removes an extra avenue of advancement for players that do already have their gear sets completed. Secondaries matter, after all, and the old relics often had better secondaries than their raid counterparts (once equal in item level, of course).

[LittleImp]

If by "raiding community" you mean PF, you'd be correct in that assertion. I do not associate with PF anymore outside of very specific circumstances.

Thanks for playing

[Absimiliard]

Thanks for playing

Hold up. Are you actually trying to say raiding with a static instead of in PF is bad? Rofl. That doesn't even make sense.