Tomestones.. Again.. for a relic..

[Absimiliard]

When did the relics ever have superior stats mid tiers, besides some edge cases like that horrible time we had the tanks use strength accessories over vitality accessories for damage over health the relics have always been far enough behind that edge case optimisation didn’t really factor in the raiding communities overall opinion of relics

And regardless like I said it’s not like the anima relic was any faster, you can’t act like “being forced to do eureka” is a point against it when the alternative in HW was to do ARF 857 times

I take it you didn't play in ARR and Heavensward. Those relic weapons came in pretty handy back then. There were of course times where they would lag behind, but you didn't have to wait until the expansion's end for them to be at or near the level of raid weapons. Even when they did lag behind, the gap was nowhere near what it is today. Granted, part of this is due to the old relics having more steps. You upgraded them more often in exchange for doing it in smaller increments, which for the most part allowed them to be much closer to raid weapons than what we have now at any given time.

[Supersnow845]

I take it you didn't play in ARR and Heavensward. Those relic weapons came in pretty handy back then. There were of course times where they would lag behind, but you didn't have to wait until the expansion's end for them to be at or near the level of raid weapons. Even when they did lag behind, the gap was nowhere near what it is today.

I mean I did, and I certainly remember when the relics didn’t lag as far behind that they were beaten by a garden variety extreme weapon but still don’t remember then actually changing the balance when a tier was still current for anything outside of those old weird optimisation cases around secondary stats and accuracy being a thing to contend with back then but maybe I just didn’t play a class that that was relevant to back then

Point taken though