Tomestones.. Again.. for a relic..

[Saraide]

If you don't like it, don't do it? But can we have our grinding content like raiders have their savage floors and hardcores have ultimate, and casuals have IS or Limsa AFK?
Why is it so hard for people like you to let us enjoy that kind of content?

I'm not stopping you. Infact nothing is stopping you from just doing 300 fates right now. There is nothing stopping you from just running 50 circus tower. 15 variant clears? You want a relic step be y content x times? Oh boi do I have news for you, you can just do that.

[Ath192]

I'm not stopping you. Infact nothing is stopping you from just doing 300 fates right now. There is nothing stopping you from just running 50 circus tower. 15 variant clears? You want a relic step be y content x times? Oh boi do I have news for you, you can just do that.

You fail to understand how grind content works. People want an exclusive reward being locked behind it so they can work for it. This is what relics were in the past. Doing a grind for no reward or making up a grind isn't the same thing.

And most players are fine with this exclusivity so long as it's not an item that is absolutely needed, which a relic is not.

[Saraide]

You fail to understand how grind content works. People want an exclusive reward being locked behind it so they can work for it. This is what relics were in the past. Doing a grind for no reward or making up a grind isn't the same thing.

And most players are fine with this exclusivity so long as it's not an item that is absolutely needed, which a relic is not.

So you want a reward for doing content that you find too boring to do normally?

[Ath192]

So you want a reward for doing content that you find too boring to do normally?

That is exactly what a grind is. And personally I would only do one relic, but I would dabble. I prefer harder content than grinds myself. I've always only done my main's relic every xpac.

[Saraide]

That is exactly what a grind is. And personally I would only do one relic, but I would dabble. I prefer harder content than grinds myself. I've always only done my main's relic every xpac.

People who like that should get better taste.

[Ath192]

People who like that should get better taste.

I mean if that's your take. I understand them wanting to have a reward to keep playing a game they love, even if its old content. I also understand not wanting to repeat things without a reward.

But look, just hand in your 1500 tomes and log off. There's other games to go play.

[Iyrnthota]

I mean if that's your take. I understand them wanting to have a reward to keep playing a game they love, even if its old content. I also understand not wanting to repeat things without a reward.

But look, just hand in your 1500 tomes and log off. There's other games to go play.

If I may, what do you feel would have been an appropriate objective, given the lack of exploratory zone?

Personally, based on previous steps, I feel like 15 dungeons runs would be about right. Perhaps levels 70-80.

[LianaThorne]

People who like that should get better taste.

The same thing could be said back to you. Everyone enjoys different things, all we're asking for is all tastes to be accomodated. I really enjoyed Bozja/Zadnor and would love for that to have been something occuring again in this relic...at the very least tying it into Criterion in some sense so that content could be utilized again. Instead we got a pretty lackluster relic step that's a copy-paste basically of the first. I think people who enjoyed a harder grind seen in previous relics have a right to be upset, or even those who views this as a lazy approach to making a step since, like I said, it's literally what we did already in the first step.

Instead of resulting to personal insults, take your win and let the rest of us have a space to say our thoughts and voice our concerns.

[Saraide]

The same thing could be said back to you. Everyone enjoys different things, all we're asking for is all tastes to be accomodated. I really enjoyed Bozja/Zadnor and would love for that to have been something occuring again in this relic...at the very least tying it into Criterion in some sense so that content could be utilized again. Instead we got a pretty lackluster relic step that's a copy-paste basically of the first. I think people who enjoyed a harder grind seen in previous relics have a right to be upset, or even those who views this as a lazy approach to making a step since, like I said, it's literally what we did already in the first step.

Instead of resulting to personal insults, take your win and let the rest of us have a space to say our thoughts and voice our concerns.

You want to tell someone who wants to enjoy content because of its own quality over external rewards to get better taste? Instead of asking for boring content to be stretched out you should ask for more interesting content.

[Novae]

I'm not stopping you. Infact nothing is stopping you from just doing 300 fates right now. There is nothing stopping you from just running 50 circus tower. 15 variant clears? You want a relic step be y content x times? Oh boi do I have news for you, you can just do that.

I'll pass on this step. The only thing needed is a 15$ sub and 20 minutes. I feel like playing a mobile game. But if it's the kind of content you enjoy, I'm happy for you.