Tomestones.. Again.. for a relic..

[ForteNightshade]

As others have already pointed out, Eureka Orthos released today. The Variant/Criterion dungeons are still very new. Why not try to funnel people into that content?

Because they flubbed Variant/Criterion so badly neither would actually work.

Variant is comically simple to the point it can be effortlessly soloed. That isn't to say it's bad content per se because it isn't. The whole exploration aspect worked, albeit with very minimal longevity. Par for the course with this game, evidently. The issue is it means players aren't queuing into Duty Finder necessarily, which is what they want for the relic. Criterion, on the the other hand, is way overtuned to be a relic step. Instead of the more Extreme difficulty they originally announced, they made it equivalent to low tier Savage. This meant it was dead content for the overwhelming majority of players who, while may want something with some teeth to it, aren't looking for a Savage fight. They certainly wouldn't lock a relic step behind it. Not to mention, unless Criterion could be unsynced at a later point in time, it'd require some heavy nerfing to not lock out players as the expansion(s) went on.

Basically, their very shortsighted planning made both a non-option they can only really rectify in the next iteration.

[Duskane]

This is only the second stage though right? Aren’t there usually 4 or 5 steps to a relic weapon? Maybe the later steps will be more grindy for those that want it. Working, so I haven’t had a chance to get on and do the quests yet.

there will probably be two more steps 6.45 for to be on par with the current EX trial and 6.55-8 to be on par with final savage tier but i doubt they will do anything different for last two steps if the first two are like this.

[4clubbedace]

This is what happened when too many people complained on the exploration zones >:V

i couldve had fun with new fates and Notorious monsters/ Critical engagments but nooo just continuously farm roulettes for instances below max level anyways.

Or just hunt trains, but you were going to do those anyways

[ForteNightshade]

Clothing mods me hair mods tend to look horrendous though. You think SE is lazy but so many of these are just... Flat

That's just like, your opinion, man

Jokes aside, I obviously cannot link to any but there are tons of outfits either on par or better than anything SE releases. Which isn't a slight at the dev team but rather a compliment to those specific modders.

[TomsYoungerBro]

It could be the number of jobs and weapons and they feel people will get burned out grinding them.

If only they applied that logic consistently....like with savage gearing lmao (tier still isn't unlocked)

[Novae]

Just think: we pay $13 a month to play all the other games that we want, all while being able to AFK and socialize with our friends in FFXIV. Isn’t that exciting?

Indeed, it's like the Game Pass without games. Yoshida is a freaking mastermind. Even EA is jealous.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

That's just like, your opinion, man

Jokes aside, I obviously cannot link to any but there are tons of outfits either on par or better than anything SE releases. Which isn't a slight at the dev team but rather a compliment to those specific modders.

LOL, unless they are hiding them somewhere I've seen a lot... And been impressed by very few.


Even paid ones aren't great, I've seen pictures of them clipping into the bodies of the character, when they are just changes to vanilla outfits that don't do that.



Most of the images you get on Twitter are of the lesser quality. They just look downright awful.

[CStrife912]

While Stormpeaks is being too aggressive on the opposite side, you're severely underestimating what modders have accomplished. The two most popular body mods literally remake your entire character. They aren't simply a texture update but a whole new body built off the base one. For specifics, just look up feet. Our default character doesn't have actual toes but drawn on black lines on stubs. Both body mods constructed a brand new foot that seamlessly meshes into the game. Clothing mods are on a whole different scale too. Of course, it should be noted it's far easier for modders to make improvements like this than the developers themselves as they don't have to factor in coding and making it all function server side. At the same time, it isn't a good look when they're still releasing hats Viera and Hrothgar can't wear but modders figured it out years ago.

I am not disputing their work I have already browsed mods and have seen them first hand with shaders. You can make the game look a lot better than it is now and your example with bodies and feet is a good example. However even if you took the most popular hair texture replacement mod the texture quality is still not as good compared to what they showed because the lighting and self shadow shaders are better than what reshade is capable of. Only so much you can do with something like reshade, they're essentially redoing how their engine renders materials, lighting points, texture quality, shadow quality and self shadows...a lot of this reshade can't entirely fix...diminish sure but fix? no. But this is me spitballing off an example without seeing how the environments look yet. They merely showed how examples work on their own let alone all combined so when fanfest rolls round I will be curious of the final product. If its not as good sure then well done to modders its a win win for the community as a whole.

[Supersnow845]

Besides CLL locking you out of progression which I think we can all agree in hindsight was poor design what is a single justification for not doing a new relic like the resistance relics

You can farm them in the new x zone (for EW it could be variant or allagen HOH) or you could farm x old content, it’s not like they couldn’t put poetics steps in between each step to break it up so you do a bit of everything

The removal of field content already teaks of laziness, couldn’t they have at least put in 1% of the effort they did in SB

[Jettinson]

I love the comments blaming players who "asked" for this.

If you're a professional multi-billion dollar gaming company with decades of experience and the best you can do is "farm 1500 tomes" because a handful of players "told you to", you don't deserve customers. You should be capable of making a good game by yourself, like thousands of other gaming companies out there are perfectly capable of doing.

I do not think we even need such milestone and money to even come up at least something for this relic step, let alone a repeat of the first.

I will say ARR is my least enjoyable relic but they could have taken even a tiny spec from that or from HW as an example.