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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Why does a relic step become more interesting if I have to grind it for more time? Not harder content, not varied content, just the same thing but longer? Does delubrum suddenly unlock the new exciting mode when you enter it for the 20th time? Does titan do the construct 7 dance when you fight him for the 5th time?
    If you don't like it, don't do it? But can we have our grinding content like raiders have their savage floors and hardcores have ultimate, and casuals have IS or Limsa AFK?
    Why is it so hard for people like you to let us enjoy that kind of content?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novae View Post
    If you don't like it, don't do it? But can we have our grinding content like raiders have their savage floors and hardcores have ultimate, and casuals have IS or Limsa AFK?
    Why is it so hard for people like you to let us enjoy that kind of content?
    I'm not stopping you. Infact nothing is stopping you from just doing 300 fates right now. There is nothing stopping you from just running 50 circus tower. 15 variant clears? You want a relic step be y content x times? Oh boi do I have news for you, you can just do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    I'm not stopping you. Infact nothing is stopping you from just doing 300 fates right now. There is nothing stopping you from just running 50 circus tower. 15 variant clears? You want a relic step be y content x times? Oh boi do I have news for you, you can just do that.
    You fail to understand how grind content works. People want an exclusive reward being locked behind it so they can work for it. This is what relics were in the past. Doing a grind for no reward or making up a grind isn't the same thing.

    And most players are fine with this exclusivity so long as it's not an item that is absolutely needed, which a relic is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    You fail to understand how grind content works. People want an exclusive reward being locked behind it so they can work for it. This is what relics were in the past. Doing a grind for no reward or making up a grind isn't the same thing.

    And most players are fine with this exclusivity so long as it's not an item that is absolutely needed, which a relic is not.
    So you want a reward for doing content that you find too boring to do normally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    So you want a reward for doing content that you find too boring to do normally?
    That is exactly what a grind is. And personally I would only do one relic, but I would dabble. I prefer harder content than grinds myself. I've always only done my main's relic every xpac.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    That is exactly what a grind is. And personally I would only do one relic, but I would dabble. I prefer harder content than grinds myself. I've always only done my main's relic every xpac.
    People who like that should get better taste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    People who like that should get better taste.
    I mean if that's your take. I understand them wanting to have a reward to keep playing a game they love, even if its old content. I also understand not wanting to repeat things without a reward.

    But look, just hand in your 1500 tomes and log off. There's other games to go play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    People who like that should get better taste.
    The same thing could be said back to you. Everyone enjoys different things, all we're asking for is all tastes to be accomodated. I really enjoyed Bozja/Zadnor and would love for that to have been something occuring again in this relic...at the very least tying it into Criterion in some sense so that content could be utilized again. Instead we got a pretty lackluster relic step that's a copy-paste basically of the first. I think people who enjoyed a harder grind seen in previous relics have a right to be upset, or even those who views this as a lazy approach to making a step since, like I said, it's literally what we did already in the first step.

    Instead of resulting to personal insults, take your win and let the rest of us have a space to say our thoughts and voice our concerns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    I'm not stopping you. Infact nothing is stopping you from just doing 300 fates right now. There is nothing stopping you from just running 50 circus tower. 15 variant clears? You want a relic step be y content x times? Oh boi do I have news for you, you can just do that.
    I'll pass on this step. The only thing needed is a 15$ sub and 20 minutes. I feel like playing a mobile game. But if it's the kind of content you enjoy, I'm happy for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novae View Post
    If you don't like it, don't do it? But can we have our grinding content like raiders have their savage floors and hardcores have ultimate, and casuals have IS or Limsa AFK?
    Why is it so hard for people like you to let us enjoy that kind of content?

    Most of the Limsa afiers on Jenova are ultimate raiders. So are they casuals or hardcore? Lol
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