Tomestones.. Again.. for a relic..

[grinkdaboy]

Personally, I hardly care, I am very objective and result driven when it comes to relics, it doesn't matter what I have to do for the shiny, I just want it to be shiny.

I am sure that regardless what the step was, people would complain, different people to be sure, but they would, so it is a lose-lose situation no matter how you look at it.

first they complained they had to do content (eureka), then they complained again that they had to do the significantly easier and faster content (bozja) and now they complain that there is no "content" (farming fates forever or running xyz raid/dungeon ad nauseum)

[CStrife912]

first they complained they had to do content (eureka), then they complained again that they had to do the significantly easier and faster content (bozja) and now they complain that there is no "content" (farming fates forever or running xyz raid/dungeon ad nauseum)

it is a loose loose situation anyway, like I said above I would of liked something more unique but then in eureka and bozja it was just FATE farming in a different location. Now I can just partake with what I want and get my tomes and hand in. I can do dungeons, raids in any capacity or hunt trains I'm rewarded with the currency to advance my relic.

[LianaThorne]

first they complained they had to do content (eureka), then they complained again that they had to do the significantly easier and faster content (bozja) and now they complain that there is no "content" (farming fates forever or running xyz raid/dungeon ad nauseum)

So, in your opinion, handing in 1500 tomestones and calling it a day is content to you?

[CStrife912]

So, in your opinion, handing in 1500 tomestones and calling it a day is content to you?

I mean it is and isn't like a dungeon gives 50 without additional to when you're in there. Same with like raids and hunts..if you've saved up for one off the bat you still need to grind in some capacity to get others let alone get them all and that's for BOTH stages now...its a timesink in some capacity. It just not a grind X Fate 30 times cause the drop rate is not in your favour or go in this new zone and grind FATES or run these dungeons to get a book. You're running dungeons just not for a book but for a currency we already have. ARR and HW disguised the step we are doing now under a different system but its borderline the same. Not defending it just an observation is all.

[LianaThorne]

I mean it is and isn't like a dungeon gives 50 without additional to when you're in there. Same with like raids and hunts..if you've saved up for one off the bat you still need to grind in some capacity to get others let alone get them all and that's for BOTH stages now...its a timesink in some capacity. It just not a grind X Fate 30 times cause the drop rate is not in your favour or go in this new zone and grind FATES or run these dungeons to get a book. You're running dungeons just not for a book but for a currency we already have. ARR and HW disguised the step we are doing now under a different system but its borderline the same. Not defending it just an observation is all.

And that's fair for people who are new/slower but it also just adds to the argument that they're catering to only one crowd.
I'm only doing two relics, SCH and SMN, and have 1500 tomes ready to go for the first. The second will only take me an hour or two with hunts. That's not content in my opinion, at all. It's as you said, a time sink.

It just feels really shallow and I was hoping for some sort of a deeper experience that would make it feel like what I'm doing has a purpose. Doing hunts for tomestones is literally something I do already several times a week. It's nothing new.

Even if we weren't getting a new zone, they should have tied it into Criterion Normal somehow. It would have been an amazing excuse to revitalize that content and add more rewards to it considering once you have the mount, title and outfit pieces there's no real reason to go back.

[CStrife912]

And that's fair for people who are new/slower but it also just adds to the argument that they're catering to only one crowd.
I'm only doing two relics, SCH and SMN, and have 1500 tomes ready to go for the first. The second will only take me an hour or two with hunts. That's not content in my opinion, at all. It's as you said, a time sink.

It just feels really shallow and I was hoping for some sort of a deeper experience that would make it feel like what I'm doing has a purpose. Doing hunts for tomestones is literally something I do already several times a week. It's nothing new.

I completely get that as a hunt train person myself its the most time efficient way to get upgrade mats for tome gear too for instance but then we have to remember not everyone do Hunts for them this grind will be a lot slower...or it will push them into a new content experience. But you are right I would of liked there to have been something more, granted I'm not sure what the crafter and gatherer relic is looking like either unless someone here knows XD

[grinkdaboy]

So, in your opinion, handing in 1500 tomestones and calling it a day is content to you?

sure, since i can do a larger number of things to get those tomestones than i can compared to the sb or shb relic. also keep in mind that we have not gotten any non-repeatable relic steps yet (remember the sb fate farming? or the 120 shb raids you had to do if you absolutely did not want to run bsf?)

[DixieBellOCE]

first they complained they had to do content (eureka), then they complained again that they had to do the significantly easier and faster content (bozja) and now they complain that there is no "content" (farming fates forever or running xyz raid/dungeon ad nauseum)

The sad thing is that the content that replaces eureka/bozja was dead on arrival or just afk content like island sanctuary.

I would have gladly done another exploratory zone, because that means actually playing the game. I grinded away at eureka relics because i found the zones fun, hitting huge numbers and grinding away at stuff 'with other people'.

Hell, Bozja storyline even gave us a bonus EX trial, which gave dyable versions of SHB job armor.