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    It's disappointing,

    But frankly speaking, people have complained ceaselessly about the method by which you need to do the relic.

    - They complained about books in ARR
    - They complained about FATEs in HW
    - They complained about Eureka in SB, granted it was mostly a you have to do Eureka, and Eureka alone if you wanted it.
    - They complained about needing to do CLL, DR, and Dalriada, and complain you needed to do them especially to progress relic. They also complained that we had FATEs still, and complained about the one-time only 24-man raid farms.

    As far as they're concerned, the best way to address this was to simply attach it to tomestones, which doesn't care about the 'how' - Again, I personally don't like it, but historically the community has only complained, and complained about the 'how'.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 03-07-2023 at 07:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    It's disappointing,

    But frankly speaking, people have complained ceaselessly about the method by which you need to do the relic.

    - They complained about books in ARR
    - They complained about FATEs in HW
    - They complained about Eureka in SB, granted it was mostly a you have to do Eureka, and Eureka alone if you wanted it.
    - They complained about needing to do CLL, DR, and Dalriada, and complain you needed to do them especially to progress relic. They also complained that we had FATEs still, and complained about the one-time only 24-man raid farms.

    As far as they're concerned, the best way to address this was to simply attach it to tomestones, which doesn't care about the 'how' - Again, I personally don't like it, but historically the community has only complained, and complained about the 'how'.
    The sad thing is that it introduced no new content to the game.

    People like myself wanted a grind, a reason to actually log in before the next savage tier.

    And we got.. 3 quests and a tomestone hand in. Where we would normally get a nice little time sink grind.

    Its just lazy development.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    The sad thing is that it introduced no new content to the game.

    People like myself wanted a grind, a reason to actually log in before the next savage tier.

    And we got.. 3 quests and a tomestone hand in. Where we would normally get a nice little time sink grind.

    Its just lazy development.
    Not that I disagree, but in the same vein, this 'newer' content does equally need to innovate in some way, shape, or form. Otherwise, it's just the same mundane thing. Personally, I would have preferred a shift in the older direction of ARR for the relics, simply because it had me doing a vast amount of content in the game, sure the books were a pain in the neck, but they were still pretty diverse.

    If I'm honest, I wouldn't have liked to have seen a third expansion with exploratory content if they weren't going to be able to innovate on it, I've already done all the relics from the past 2 expansions of this, and I certainly don't want it to be the third, if it is just the same. I also do think it would have been nice to have these relics tie into the criterion dungeons in some way, shape, or form.

    I do sympathize with some people in here, I genuinely do, but again, this is what happens when all iterations of the relics get tears and salt, ceaselessly. -> This is a 'grind' wherein it gets reduced to the most basic form possible so that people can just effectively do what they want to obtain the tomes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Not that I disagree, but in the same vein, this 'newer' content does equally need to innovate in some way, shape, or form. Otherwise, it's just the same mundane thing. Personally, I would have preferred a shift in the older direction of ARR for the relics, simply because it had me doing a vast amount of content in the game, sure the books were a pain in the neck, but they were still pretty diverse.

    If I'm honest, I wouldn't have liked to have seen a third expansion with exploratory content if they weren't going to be able to innovate on it, I've already done all the relics from the past 2 expansions of this, and I certainly don't want it to be the third, if it is just the same. I also do think it would have been nice to have these relics tie into the criterion dungeons in some way, shape, or form.

    I do sympathize with some people in here, I genuinely do, but again, this is what happens when all iterations of the relics get tears and salt, ceaselessly. -> This is a 'grind' wherein it gets reduced to the most basic form possible so that people can just effectively do what they want to obtain the tomes.
    It was a chance to make use of dead content like Criterion Dungeons, and they just threw it out the window for some tomestone farming.
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    id rather have this than grind 500000000 normal raids/alliance raids/trials

    you basically get to choose what content you run
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    pretty disappointed

    Weak update, all this time to log in and ...hand over tomestones. I had higher expectations tbh. My bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nugsi View Post
    Weak update, all this time to log in and ...hand over tomestones. I had higher expectations tbh. My bad.
    If you wait 2 more months you can get 4 new savage fights and then wait 4 more months for the conclusion to the alliance raids. Stuffs on fire yall.
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    i think old relics should be done with tomestones and new relics should have the different things to do even if it's old content to do
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