Tomestones.. Again.. for a relic..

[Vahlnir]

complete 2 manderville quests and then get 1500 tomestones.

[Oizen]

Its lazy yes but lets not pretend like Relic grinds were anything but lazy.

Doesn't help that everything else in Endwalker is lacking though

[Absimiliard]

It's also possible that the devs considered the entirety of Hildibrand to be part of the grind. I know a few of my friends certainly do.

Never have I used the skip cutscene feature with such reckless abandon.

[Geckooooo]

Its lazy yes but lets not pretend like Relic grinds were anything but lazy.

Doesn't help that everything else in Endwalker is lacking though

yea last relic grind was pretty lazy, multiple 48 mans with a savage version of one just for fun.

[SamSmoot]

At least it doesn't require raids. I just wish we could trade up older tomestones. Say, ten poetics for one Astronomy, and so on. Might speed up the grind a bit.

[Amenara]

Hey, at least there is a fight in the quests... as an NPC...

[sharknado]

The first step was very easy so people got multiple if not all weapons which imply they can't/won't block players with a time-gated grind, not until 6.55 at least. Imagine if you had run like 100 expert roulettes for each weapon. And not like they are adding trust support to MSQ instances without a reason. They are aiming at solo/old players that don't have time or interest in MMO design from 10-20 years ago (when they were kids and had the time for it).

At 6.5/6.55 they probably add a step requiring X alliance raid clears and people will be furious they have to do 5, 10, 20... runs per weapon and if they don't add it other people will be furious they didn't add it. And healers will be furious if they add piety on the third step while tome/6.4 weapons will not have it becoming BiS for long because 0.1% parse... or they will take down crit from tank/dps weapons

[Vahlnir]

Hey, at least there is a fight in the quests... as an NPC...

[Geckooooo]

just wait until 7.0 when the materials are downgraded to poetics

[Themarvin]

Well for any serious steps like bozja eureka alike.. we first got those after some easy steps in earlier weapons.

However they take away the insane fategrind, which was tedious and more torture than working for something... we will work more for it later on.... and also heavy grind is going away slowly in general.