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  1. #231
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    AvalonBright's Avatar
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    Rhefi Zahra
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    Came to make a thread on this, gladdened to see there already is one. This is ridiculous. Like, sure you can make the argument easy steps for glowy weapons is nice, but right now I'm just glaring at Island Sanctuary--and I'm someone who LIKES it, in a vacuum.

    But content died for this. No Eureka, no Bozja, no new open world at all, and we waited another 2+ months for a real relic step that'd provide some content for...this? For nothing?

    Even without Island Sanctuary they could have done SOMETHING else, but...man. Real open world content died for this. For some reason.
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  2. #232
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    Lil Imp
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    If by "raiding community" you mean PF, you'd be correct in that assertion. I do not associate with PF anymore outside of very specific circumstances.
    Thanks for playing
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  3. #233
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    MonteCristo's Avatar
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    Lamonte Cristo
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    Seraph
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Im not gonna go as far as to say that casuals are gonna kill endgame but id be lying if i said i wasnt worried atm. This wasnt a good look for the future of things especially if the general population is ok with this mess. Also, when did relics become so watered down?? I remember when they were touted as the best most unique and treasured items in the game. How did we get here?
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  4. #234
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    Raim Surion
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    Marauder Lv 100
    I mean I get why people would dislike a boring, long grind. But at the same time its basically not-content without something like Eureka. Its a shame we couldn't get another piece of content like that alongside deep dungeon, seeing as they managed it in Stormblood.
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  5. #235
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Anyone know if the Japanese are loving this new way of doing things? I feel their opinion matters more than us. I don't know what their forums look like right now.
    5ch is actually pretty full of malding right now. Lots of 'Yoshida is a scammer', 'why am I paying for this every month?', 'I'm glad I didn't resubscribe this month' etc.
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  6. #236
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    Cassius Rex
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    Thanks for playing
    Hold up. Are you actually trying to say raiding with a static instead of in PF is bad? Rofl. That doesn't even make sense.
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  7. #237
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    Xirean Summit
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Hot take but I actually prefer this method. Eureka and Bozja took you out of the rest of the game. Granted the ShB relics let you do other stuff besides Bozja, it was still highly specific and included things like deep dungeon with no other non Bozja alternative. No shame to the people who like exploratory zones but this is a welcome change in my opinion. I much prefer the game not care what I do to get the currency then demand I spend several hours doing a lot of something I hate.
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  8. #238
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    Seiko Hanamura
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    $15 a month for another tome dump? No thanks, I'll go back to Genshin Impact where I can do the same thing for free.
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  9. #239
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    It's also possible that the devs considered the entirety of Hildibrand to be part of the grind. I know a few of my friends certainly do.
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  10. #240
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    Amh Wilzuun
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    Famfrit
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    I'm more mad about the relic designs themselves than it being tomes. The NIN and MNK weapons did a 180 on tone and now don't fit in my glams at all. I liked it better in ShB when the first glow step didn't compromise the base weapon.

    EW is undoubtably having a content problem, although I think it is a little silly that people are already declaring it a dead patch when they haven't tried Eureka Orthos. It seems to have some new mechanics so at least try that first before saying there's a content drought.

    "But I already know that I don't like deep dungeons" You do realize other people would have said the same things about Bozja/Eureka style content?

    I do agree that Island sanctuary ultimately being a "copy the workshop schedule from discord" simulator sucks, although I do not think the content was a complete waste since getting my island fully developed was a relaxing little grind and the rewards have been good overall.

    The combination of FFXVI development and the 7.0 graphical update is definitely hurting Endwalker's patch cycle even if they may deny it. The march towards launch is typically one of the most work intensive times for game development. Since EW is light on the content it would be cool if maybe we could get some netcode/code improvements in 7.0 too while we're at it but that might be a lot to ask
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    Last edited by Amh_Wilzuun; 03-08-2023 at 02:52 AM.

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