Tomestones.. Again.. for a relic..

[Stormpeaks]

Whole expansion gives WoW vibes. Classes suck and have turned full braindead, relic grind is now complete braindead, its just insane. What are the devs doing with all those millions they are swimming in?

Funding other games while leaving FFXIV in maintenance mode with terrible half assed patches and racking in huge amount of cash from mog shop and services like world transfer etc.,

[CStrife912]

Whole expansion gives WoW vibes. Classes suck and have turned full braindead, relic grind is now complete braindead, its just insane. What are the devs doing with all those millions they are swimming in?

Probably putting all their resources into the graphic overhaul and 7.0 stuff is my betting...its a lot of work but its a case of people would of moaned no matter the step..yes its not new content but how dare you be able to partake in any aspect of the game to do your relic now...not spam stormblood fates for low drop rate items etc etc.

Funding other games while leaving FFXIV in maintenance mode with terrible half assed patches and racking in huge amount of cash from mog shop and services like world transfer etc.,

I mean completely untrue but this forum likes to go hard on the negativity and doom saying lol

[Stormpeaks]

Probably putting all their resources into the graphic overhaul and 7.0 stuff is my betting...its a lot of work but its a case of people would of moaned no matter the step..yes its not new content but how dare you be able to partake in any aspect of the game to do your relic now...not spam stormblood fates for low drop rate items etc etc.



I mean completely untrue but this forum likes to go hard on the negativity and doom saying lol

lmao "all their ressources into the graphic overhaul"

you mean what modders have been doing for literally years ?

Are you only doing a single relic?



It's only 24 times the amount of time, basically the same.
Great content? No, relics have always been boring in my experience as I said on the first page of this thread.

Because you find it boring doesnt mean it should be dumbed down to 1500 tomestones, some people want to have a little bit of work to and not just a turn in

[CStrife912]

lmao "all their ressources into the graphic overhaul"

you mean what modders have been doing for literally years ?

What was shown in the character portraits is beyond what modders can do with the base game even on a shader level...anyone can tell you that. Yeah modders can make textures look nice...but they don't have a PBR tied to them or soft shadows that's without even seeing the material work for the environment yet or even the lighting adjustments...modders can do some things but to say they have done that always is laughable at best. The only thing they're ahead on is putting hats on races that can't wear them.

[Stormpeaks]

What was shown in the character portraits is beyond what modders can do with the base game even on a shader level...anyone can tell you that. Yeah modders can make textures look nice...but they don't have a PBR tied to them or soft shadows that's without even seeing the material work for the environment yet or even the lighting adjustments...modders can do some things but to say they have done that always is laughable at best. The only thing they're ahead on is putting hats on races that can't wear them.

Yeah okay lmao, you are very clueless, but you keep coping friend

[ForteNightshade]

So, we're literally just repeating the same step? Really? We've gotten to this level of making things as simple as possible that we're just doing the exact same thing we did in the first step? I'd rather have CT spam.

This actually makes me a little irritated and I question what the devs have been doing. It's fair to blame it on 16 taking up dev time but then personally they should be trying to hire more people to pick up the slack because it's not really fair to those of us who want a deeper experience with the game. Endwalker so far has been a disappointment and it upsets me to say that because I genuinely love this game. Lately though, it just feels like nothing really has much purpose to it and I don't get that same sense of achievement that I used to when completing content. It all just feels very surface and barebones and sad compared to previous expansions.

I was honestly excited to log in early and start doing the new content but now that it can be completed in literally 30m-1h (doing the deep dungeon in the afternoon with my quartet), I don't see a point.

This is precisely how I feel. While I had low expectations for this patch considering the shallow state of Endwalker, I'm still surprised just how... listless and uninspired the relic is. Ironically, they have really hammered in how utterly pointless it is to delay the relic step this long. Anyone who once tried to argue they needed time to develop new content... well, have yourself a good laugh. Our "new content" is farming the same hunt trains and dungeons that have existed for months.

What was shown in the character portraits is beyond what modders can do with the base game even on a shader level...anyone can tell you that. Yeah modders can make textures look nice...but they don't have a PBR tied to them or soft shadows that's without even seeing the material work for the environment yet or even the lighting adjustments...modders can do some things but to say they have done that always is laughable at best. The only thing they're ahead on is putting hats on races that can't wear them.

While Stormpeaks is being too aggressive on the opposite side, you're severely underestimating what modders have accomplished. The two most popular body mods literally remake your entire character. They aren't simply a texture update but a whole new body built off the base one. For specifics, just look up feet. Our default character doesn't have actual toes but drawn on black lines on stubs. Both body mods constructed a brand new foot that seamlessly meshes into the game. Clothing mods are on a whole different scale too. Of course, it should be noted it's far easier for modders to make improvements like this than the developers themselves as they don't have to factor in coding and making it all function server side. At the same time, it isn't a good look when they're still releasing hats Viera and Hrothgar can't wear but modders figured it out years ago.

[Saraide]

lmao "all their ressources into the graphic overhaul"

you mean what modders have been doing for literally years ?



Because you find it boring doesnt mean it should be dumbed down to 1500 tomestones, some people want to have a little bit of work to and not just a turn in

Relic steps are always "just a turn in". Why does it matter if the thing I turn in is 15 memories of the chungus, 15 books of whatever they were called or 1.5k tomes?

Let’s not pretend that it takes development effort to ask us to do 15 variant dungeons, all EW normal mode trials and leveling dungeons, or farm the new deep dungeon 15 times for the relic. They just decided not to.

How would that be any more interesting than just 1.5k tomes? You could just get your tomes doing that way?

[Eve_The_Witch]

Probably putting all their resources into the graphic overhaul and 7.0 stuff is my betting...its a lot of work but its a case of people would of moaned no matter the step..yes its not new content but how dare you be able to partake in any aspect of the game to do your relic now...not spam stormblood fates for low drop rate items etc etc.



I mean completely untrue but this forum likes to go hard on the negativity and doom saying lol

By your logic they can also just give everything for free. No more Raids, no more Tomestones, just give everything right away because why grind for anything anyway

[CStrife912]

By your logic they can also just give everything for free. No more Raids, no more Tomestones, just give everything right away because why grind for anything anyway

Its not free though is it...I'm not saying I wanted it this way I would of liked something more to do but I am sort of glad it isn't a FATE grind or run these 4 dungeons...having the option to pick what I want to do is better than forcing me to do something in the existing pool. Raids and tomestones also are completely outside the concept of relics so your argument is flawed and your statement hyperbole.

[Retropolitans]

Whole expansion gives WoW vibes. Classes suck and have turned full braindead, relic grind is now complete braindead, its just insane. What are the devs doing with all those millions they are swimming in?

Funneled into other projects within SE. Yoshi's made offhand comments about it in the past. They're constantly undermanned and underfunded. I imagine even moreso given the proximity to XVI's release rn