Tomestones.. Again.. for a relic..

[RyuDragnier]

Not everyone is a new player.

Correct, but the grind begins again EVERY time new content is added that corresponds with it, and for anything that somebody decides they want at that point in time.

Ilvl increase? You need to grind the new tomes, the Savages (should you do them), gather all those materials for the new crafted set to use/sell, melding new materia in (overmelding if you're going the extra distance). This happens every even numbered patch.

New EX? You're having to grind it for the new mount. We get a new EX EVERY major patch.

Decided on a new glam? You're going to have to grind for that one piece of gear you want assuming it's not something you can just buy.

The grind is constant and everywhere, all we get are minor breaks from it. And in the case of some, there's always something to level or farm, so the grind for them is near eternal. To act like there is no grind is...no offense, a pretty dumb take.

[raelgun]

Correct, but the grind begins again EVERY time new content is added that corresponds with it, and for anything that somebody decides they want at that point in time.

Ilvl increase? You need to grind the new tomes, the Savages (should you do them), gather all those materials for the new crafted set to use/sell, melding new materia in (overmelding if you're going the extra distance). This happens every even numbered patch.

New EX? You're having to grind it for the new mount. We get a new EX EVERY major patch.

Decided on a new glam? You're going to have to grind for that one piece of gear you want assuming it's not something you can just buy.

The grind is constant and everywhere, all we get are minor breaks from it. And in the case of some, there's always something to level or farm, so the grind for them is near eternal. To act like there is no grind is...no offense, a pretty dumb take.

The point of this thread is talking about content being added mid way through an expansion.

Most of your post is only valid for the start of an expansion when new systems are introduced and a reset occurs, this isn't that.

People need to stop looking at things from a new player perspective only, this is why the game as time goes on gets more shallow.

[RyuDragnier]

The point of this thread is talking about content being added mid way through an expansion.

Most of your post is only valid for the start of an expansion when new systems are introduced and a reset occurs, this isn't that.

People need to stop looking at things from a new player perspective only, this is why the game as time goes on gets more shallow.

Incorrect.

We had an ilvl increase in 6.1 for crafters/gatherers, one in 6.2 for battle classes, one in 6.3 for crafters/gatherers, and we're about to have another one in 6.4 for the battle classes (which is the final ilvl increase for the expansion). So that's 80% of the big patches with an ilvl increase. That is not new player exclusive, that effects everyone.

We get a new EX in x.1, x.2, x.3, x.4, and x.5 patches. Meaning a new mount every big patch. That effects everyone at endgame who wants them.

A new glam you've decided on can be at any time, any place, and can effect any player.

So tell me where any of that is new player exclusive and valid only for an expansion's launch?

[SweetPete]

It’s gonna be the same people on here in 7.0 relic saying the grind is to much and they need to nerf it. People just aren’t satisfied. It’s quite funny actually. I don’t think the devs will ever satisfy even most of the player base.

[AurisNix]

I dont mind the fact that this is easy to get, but in all means it was also a lazy lazy approach, 1500 tomes is also grind but is a boring grind at best you just do dailies for 3 days or just do train hunts (wich also boring), the devs went from point A to C without trying a B mid point, i dont think its necessary to have a disgusting Grind (Delubrum PTSD), but they could have just add specific tasks to get the relic do this dungeon with the weapon equipped or complete Abyssos with the weapon, etc something as easy as 1500 tomes but with more creativity, and honestly i was hoping at least the relic will engage more activity in the variant dungeon cuz holy damn thats a very dead ass content that needs at least a quick fix. 4 months between patchs for more development but i find EW patchs very "boring" so far i dont see anything engaging enough, this relic will just be a glam by the end of the patch wich is also a very bad decision this should be at least a BiS weapon give it more use for raiding and stuff

[Lak14]

In the end, games should be fun and not feel like your time is being wasted

talking about wasting time but you have 31 jobs level 90, ironic, isn't it ?

[Jojoya]

talking about wasting time but you have 31 jobs level 90, ironic, isn't it ?

Taking things out of context, are we? Is that the best you can do as a rebuttal?

[Kolaina]

The new crafters/gatherer gear could be bought for 200k a piece a few days in.


Where is the long lasting content in what you mentioned ?

Wants longer content

Suggests skipping content by paying someone else who did the provided content

Tries to convince people they want to do harder content and everyone who disagrees is lazy

While suggesting paying to skip content

Gold medal for mental gymnastics

[Stormpeaks]

Wants longer content

Suggests skipping content by paying someone else who did the provided content

Tries to convince people they want to do harder content and everyone who disagrees is lazy

While suggesting paying to skip content

Gold medal for mental gymnastics

I mean you understand that if it couldnt be sold on marketboard it would actually make crafters do it right ? The fact it's sold on the MB makes actually doing the work to craft it pointless, especially if its this cheap.

[Kolaina]

I mean you understand that if it couldnt be sold on marketboard it would actually make crafters do it right ? The fact it's sold on the MB makes actually doing the work to craft it pointless, especially if its this cheap.

But the work is there if you’re looking for something to do. For more to accomplish. More bang for your buck with the price of your subscription.

I know not everything if for everyone. Some people may want the gear, on a 90, without ever wanting to craft.

But the activity and the grind is available