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    Quote Originally Posted by seolhyun View Post
    the difference was:
    new content
    new areas to explore
    new actions to play with
    new progression system
    not running the same roulettes as the last 3 xpacs
    biggest raid ever at the end
    relic armor
    pazuzu
    hundreds of ppl killing NMs

    now i can queue roulettes or do hunt trains. same thing i have done all xpac bc there is nothing else to do. the only replayable battle content is queueing for raids where u fight a boss in a tiny circle with comically large hit boxes.
    I don't mind the step too much, and I think there's positives to it, but can't deny that you've got a point there.
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    You left out the part where in the later one you only have to do it for about 5 minutes to get what you need
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    Unfortunately they don’t see it like that. But there it is, the former “glory” of a relic quest
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    Unfortunately they don’t see it like that. But there it is, the former “glory” of a relic quest
    Well that 'former glory' of a relic quest funneled people into content that they otherwise wouldn't do.

    And why even list Variant dungeons in the 'choose any of this content' when nobody does that as content at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    You left out the part where in the later one you only have to do it for about 5 minutes to get what you need
    Yeah, for your first one, and only if you're already capped.

    If you could tell me how to get 1500 tomes in 5 minutes for all my relics after the first one, I'd love to hear it. o:
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxCarnage View Post
    Yeah, for your first one, and only if you're already capped.

    If you could tell me how to get 1500 tomes in 5 minutes for all my relics after the first one, I'd love to hear it. o:
    A hunt train, you can cap about 3 relics in 2 hours and it’s completely brainless

    Relic content shouldn’t be this quick and easy, it’s not designed to be for people who do all 19 of them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    A hunt train, you can cap about 3 relics in 2 hours and it’s completely brainless

    Relic content shouldn’t be this quick and easy, it’s not designed to be for people who do all 19 of them
    'content is in the game but not meant to be done fully' what
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    'content is in the game but not meant to be done fully' what
    Of course not, you're meant to completely ignore those, only go after 1 whilst subsequently ignoring the fact that the other relics have achievements to gain - Which is a thing for many people/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Of course not, you're meant to completely ignore those, only go after 1 whilst subsequently ignoring the fact that the other relics have achievements to gain - Which is a thing for many people/
    Well damn, I did it all wrong in shb then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    'content is in the game but not meant to be done fully' what
    Yes relics were not meant to have all of them done. Square launched all 13 anima relics together, just try to do all 13 launch anima before the nerf, you’d probably still be doing them now, the zeta relics were just as bad and don’t get me started on the legacy or 11 relics

    Substituting a pathetically tiny “grind” by just pointlessly getting every relic is not content, is this really an argument people are making now
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