Tomestones.. Again.. for a relic..

[LianaThorne]

Well this is exactly what I did both of these steps because I already had the 1500 tomes. So it was literally zero effort, zero achivement, zero reason to log in the next day or the rest of the month that I subbed for.

Piggybacking off this,

As I said earlier about hunts, you can literally just join a party with a tank, smack the boss once and then afk and get credit. So technically you can do the bare minimum and not even play and get your tomestones.

[Saraide]

Well this is exactly what I did both of these steps because I already had the 1500 tomes. So it was literally zero effort, zero achivement, zero reason to log in the next day or the rest of the month that I subbed for.

And I dont want to get a relic for all 19 jobs. The vast majority of jobs I level to 90 and then don't touch until the next expansion (because theres no max level content to do on them (this is what the relic should be!!) outside of raiding).

Why get a relic at all then?

[CStrife912]

I'm questioning your sanity if you prefer bozja relic because, who in right minds prefer DR than a simple 1.5k tomestones?

I hated it, I’ve done ARR relic I’ve done HW and ShB I’ve done part of stormblood. Yeah I expected a little more in terms of variety this step but being told do what I like to get tomes to get my next stage again is way better then go to stormblood zones and get 15 of something which drop from fares 20% of the time. I know people say hunts would make this trivial but not everyone does them so outside of that it is a timesink to do multiple classes and multiple stages. The key issue is for people that really run one class then it hits them the hardest and I completely get it.

[AwesomeJr44]

I'm questioning your sanity if you prefer bozja relic because, who in right minds prefer DR than a simple 1.5k tomestones?

DR was actual content added to the game, so if we could have gotten something like that, I'd rather risk it being unfun than just a basic tome grind. Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I'd rather have something new than just more roulette spam.

I am rather questioning the sanity of people who pay a sub to not play the game...

This idea of paying to not play has always baffled me. It's so backwards.

[Tulvi]

where did all the development time go!?

You call this a relic step?

This game is done. Devs are so lazy.

Sorry you don’t like it. Seems perfectly balanced now for me. It’s a nice change after grinds in Stormblood and Shadowbringers. Why does everything have to be a grind?

[Kolaina]

People who pay a sub to play this game..? c.c,,

I am rather questioning the sanity of people who pay a sub to not play the game...

Can still play the game. Playing is required to gather the tomes needed.

I suspect the people who want the excruciating grind only do a handful of relics, if more than 1, and go back to bees kneesing in Limsa. Because people do pay their sub to do just that.

I do not want an excruciating grind to be able to obtain every relic. I should be able to get home from work and not feel this game has become a second job, I should feel like I can do other things, play other games, or log into my potato alt.

Farm X number of (insert old content here), or grind X fates in an old expansion are not more content or more diverse than collect set number of tomes.

[LianaThorne]

Can still play the game. Playing is required to gather the tomes needed.

I suspect the people who want the excruciating grind only do a handful of relics, if more than 1, and go back to bees kneesing in Limsa. Because people do pay their sub to do just that.

I do not want an excruciating grind to be able to obtain every relic. I should be able to get home from work and not feel this game has become a second job, I should feel like I can do other things, play other games, or log into my potato alt.

Farm X number of (insert old content here), or grind X fates in an old expansion are not more content or more diverse than collect set number of tomes.

As someone who did multiple ShB relics (I believe 6-8), I enjoyed the grind. It gave me fulfillment and also motivated me to push for some harder achievements in Bozja/Zadnor since I liked it so much. I'm also deathly allergic to Limsa and the bees knees, if you didn't know.

I just wish it was something *more* than just: plz gib 1500 tomestones x2. Like, literally anything other than just a repeat of the first step. It could have been a custom dungeon that you only need to run once to get the drop you need to upgrade and takes 10m to complete or completing a FATE specific for the relic twice that doesn't involve RNG. Like, literally anything. Just, I'm hoping it adds more over time than just a continuous tomestone turn in and we get to see some of what I and others were used to from previous relics.

[Lak14]

Can still play the game. Playing is required to gather the tomes needed.

I suspect the people who want the excruciating grind only do a handful of relics, if more than 1, and go back to bees kneesing in Limsa. Because people do pay their sub to do just that.

I do not want an excruciating grind to be able to obtain every relic. I should be able to get home from work and not feel this game has become a second job, I should feel like I can do other things, play other games, or log into my potato alt.

Farm X number of (insert old content here), or grind X fates in an old expansion are not more content or more diverse than collect set number of tomes.

casual mindset.

this game is slowly being ruined by the casual community.

[Saraide]

casual mindset.

this game is slowly being ruined by the casual community.

A goal of relics is to have a casual alternative to savage weapons.

[Supersnow845]

A goal of relics is to have a casual alternative to savage weapons.

Yes and one that requires an alternative level of effort; not substituting progging a full tier for one day of roulettes