Tomestones.. Again.. for a relic..

[Jettinson]

I kinda expected at least an alliance raid grind, even one time only.

I won't be calling out now though because I still am afraid they will put some absurd grind at the end, do a reverse victory lap compared to the other relics in past.
It seems just suspiciously too easy, I do not buy this lol

[Iyrnthota]

I kinda expected at least an alliance raid grind, even one time only.

I won't be calling out now though because I still am afraid they will put some absurd grind at the end, do a reverse victory lap compared to the other relics in past.
It seems just suspiciously too easy, I do not buy this lol

If there is going to be an ARaid grind, it'll probably be next .5 patch, if the ShB relic is anything to go by.

By no means guaranteed mind. 5.35 had two steps, so we've already diverged from last expansion in terms of quest pattern.

[ReynTime]

Remember when we had 4 eureka zones for relic steps and everyone complained and hated it and said they wanted the old tomestone grinds back from Heavensward?

Remember when we had to do 15 DR and people just wanted their old content crystal tower farms back?

So now SE is letting people do whatever content they want as long as it gives the tomestones.

Tbh people asked for boring old content and they got it. It’s the people attacking eureka as a concept that got us here so I hope they enjoy it.

Who the BEEP is "we" exactly? You don't speak for me. I enjoyed the past relics (except ShB to be honest), animus included, a lot more than this garbage. And so did most of the three XIV discord groups I'm still on.

Woop dee doo. More content NOT to grind for! But it's OK, XIV is not a "main" game. This single game costs a monthly subscription, which you could put towards an entire catalog of games in other services. But it's OK! Pay up and don't play the game longer than 5 or 10 hours a month if that. -> This is what people like you sound like right now.

LMAO. Time for another hiatus. This has gotten incredibly ridiculous.

[rainichan]

- They complained about books in ARR
- They complained about FATEs in HW
- They complained about Eureka in SB, granted it was mostly a you have to do Eureka, and Eureka alone if you wanted it.
- They complained about needing to do CLL, DR, and Dalriada, and complain you needed to do them especially to progress relic. They also complained that we had FATEs still, and complained about the one-time only 24-man raid farms.

As far as they're concerned, the best way to address this was to simply attach it to tomestones, which doesn't care about the 'how' - Again, I personally don't like it, but historically the community has only complained, and complained about the 'how'.

Seriously. First it was "WE WANT A WEAPON WE CAN GRIND FOR!" after the base AF weapons were gained through Myth tomes and a couple of relic fights you rarely see people going through anymore, which turned into "no not like this!!! It's TOO HARD!" in which... a lot of XI players went "lol" at.

The complaints were many in HW and if you had a Zeta weapon you could skip the first step entirely! But it was still a resounding "not another light grind I hate it!"

And then Eureka + Bozja.... I don't think I need to highlight those complaints. I didn't mind the zones, I did all the ShB relics (and still didn't get my freakin' raptor mount from Dalriada which means I have to catch it again eventually), and I enjoyed Eureka since I'm also an old XI player - it's just XI in my XIV.

But when the playerbase complains heavily about content, the devs are just going to go "okay, we'll go back to grinds /shrug" so I don't know what people were expecting. Tome grinds, atma grinds, whatever, it's going to be boring as sin.

I just don't get why the relic quest is always soooo late in the XPac. The new deep dungeon comes pretty late too.

Uhm and why we are getting just one dungeon per patch cycle? For quests like that?

Gives the chance for the Savage raiders to have the better weapons for... idk, better raiding for a bit. Wasn't really an issue in ARR since T6S-T9S didn't really require those back then, but then when HW came out, Savage gear was dyeable and slightly better. Dungeons being 1 per have been like this since SB, less dev time on optional dungeons that some people won't run and more dev time on other things... though going by a few here on the OF, if it's not something they can see they're not actually working on the game. :P

[LaylaTsarra]

Who the BEEP is "we" exactly? You don't speak for me. I enjoyed the past relics (except ShB to be honest), animus included, a lot more than this garbage. And so did most of the three XIV discord groups I'm still on.

To be honest the forums complained like crazy for both past relics chases. That is a given. For me personally I loved them and hope after this we get them again. To say that people were happy with Eureka and Bozja is a joke but then again the forum is never happy with anything we get.

I'd rather it be tomestones than having to farm dungeons for some rng relic drops or farm light and so on. Am I happy with it no but this appears at least to be the lesser of evils cause running older content for stuff would be a lot worse and frankly I'd probably not even do it and this is coming from someone with 12 Cerebus mounts.

The tombstone vendor worried me and I'm not surprised we're getting more of it.

Please please give us back exploratory zones in 7.0.

[Fourbestintoner]

Blame casuals who complain every time they have to play the game.

[Wilford111]

You can say what you want about farming tomes again for the next step, but really? The exact same thing as before? This is the first time they've literally recycled the same exact step from before right? It's just lack of creativity frankly. People complained about Eureka and Bozja so the devs just stopped trying. When has that ever been the right answer?

SMH, I think this is the first time a patch came out and I have no excitement or motivation to play it day 1. I'll for sure do it eventually, but everything here has been done before. We've had multiple deep dungeons in the past, multiple beast tribe quests in the past, and the relic step is the exact same as it was last time. What's there to be excited about?

[Tint]

Blame casuals who complain every time they have to play the game.

But the joke is that they don't have to play the game: They already have tomestone weapons which are basically free for all. And the crafted weapons too.

And now they removed the only somewhat meaningfull PvE grind from the game...

[RobynDaBank]

It's just stupid, IDK, to start cannibalizing other freaking players who aren't even in SQEX and say they're responsible for a copy-paste of the first step. If you think they were too loud, well, be louder next time. Blame the people in charge and control of this stuff, not the "muh casuals" boogeyman who's just one voice among others.

[ReynTime]

Moreover to say this is less grindy/boring is just completely wrong lol

With something like the Animus books at least you were asked to do different types of content. Most which was in the overworld. Hate on the "work" all you want, they were meticulously designed to make players need to do every tier of dungeon in existence in that patch, FATEs and levequests that would otherwise be ignored.

1500 tomes for a weapon is really easy and quick if you only want 1 weapon. If you want multiple weapons it's way worse now because what you're gonna do to get them at the most efficient way possible?
Hope you enjoy spamming Praetorium, with a capped character no less so not even leveling at the same time.