Bid Time and Housing system is infuriating!

[Bobby66]

Tbh I fall in the camp either the give everyone a house or they put harsher restrictions on those that have a house to make sure only actively player characters have a house. I also say this as someone with a multiple houses across many characters that takes long breaks. No reason I should be able to keep my houses when I am not even playing
I think the current system is too forgiving.

[DeNada]

I witnessed it with a friend a couple of years ago (I was a tenant in his house). He had been for about a month dealing with real life but had come back to the game. I checked estate timers and saw the timer on his house still active so I reminded him he needs to go into the house. He said he had just the day before so I told him do it again.

I watched him go in. Demo timer did not reset. He logged out, logged back in, went back into his house. Demo timer did not reset. I told him to mess with a Summoning Bell or vendor inside. He did and the demo timer reset. He now makes a habit to repair his gear in his house instead of elsewhere. Better safe than sorry.

Why does it happen? Don't have a clue. I was a skeptic about the stories myself until I saw it happen to my friend.

That seems quite worrying. Shouldn't just entering your house reset the auto-demolition timer? If your friend didn't realize that the timer wasn't reset even after entering his house and did not interact with a vendor, what is his recourse if he loses his house through no fault of his.

[Imora]

idk about a lot of people but I practically live at my house rather than the FC house.

I do my retainers there, I afk there, I have friends visit there.

I get a lot out of the house I won. Though I'll admit the system needs a few changes. Like, I'd have preferred to go to an NPC to get my gil back instead of going to the placard. Think of it as a steward giving you the keys.

[Dogempire]

Literally untrue, if you entered and its the owner of the house then it doesnt demolish, period is a little over a month, if they forgot withen a span thats on them.

also not really, youre comparing a month and some change to a week , ive gotten a house by both clicking for a whole sunday and lotto, lottos better by far. i have no issue for the week process, its really whatever.

Actually, that is possible, for some reason the system sometimes doesn't reset the demolition timer until you interact with an item in the house, so simply going inside and not interacting with any furniture or summoning bells might not reset the timer.

You pretty much always have to interact with something when you go into your house to be sure that the timer reset.

[LianaThorne]

Actually, that is possible, for some reason the system sometimes doesn't reset the demolition timer until you interact with an item in the house, so simply going inside and not interacting with any furniture or summoning bells might not reset the timer.

You pretty much always have to interact with something when you go into your house to be sure that the timer reset.

You don't even need to go so far as to interact with an item. Just change your light settings. Have never lost a house doing that.

[4clubbedace]

Actually, that is possible, for some reason the system sometimes doesn't reset the demolition timer until you interact with an item in the house, so simply going inside and not interacting with any furniture or summoning bells might not reset the timer.

You pretty much always have to interact with something when you go into your house to be sure that the timer reset.

that makes sense then, i have a repair node right as i walk in so the distinction was never something clear

[Zaredth]

While I'm sorry you lost your house, your suggestions don't solve anything. What they do is make things easier for you based on how you tend to play the game without concern for how others play it.

While I respect your disagreement and you give some solid points rather than usual "Don't change it just cause" which I have seen often in these forums. I do agree that while at sometimes I feel its stricter, there should be some forgiveness in certain scenarios. One thing I disagree on is how they give money back if the Lotto was not one. We have an NPC for this and that is thr Housing Enthusiast that holds your money if your house is Demo-ed. To tie the money specifically to the placard and create a unneeded result window is inefficient and unnecessary in my honest opinion. 2-3 days in my opinion should be enough in my opinion for Lotto Period. Its not a matter of easier for me, it should be easier for everyone to get their results and move on without being dragged out. But for that part that is my opinion.

My biggest discrepancy is where SE has one foot on being strict on one area and lenient in another that both just doesn't make sense. I rather them be either very lenient in all respectable areas or strict cause their design philosophy for this type of content just doesn't make sense.

While I understand some people feel like "if you dont use your house you should lose it" comes from a attitude and resentment for not getting a house for a long time. I read here that there is so many inconsistencies with the system. Thats why I say simply logging in should rectify it and simplify it. But eh, its a massive flawed system. Can't have everything right?

[LianaThorne]

While I respect your disagreement and you give some solid points rather than usual "Don't change it just cause" which I have seen often in these forums. I do agree that while at sometimes I feel its stricter, there should be some forgiveness in certain scenarios. One thing I disagree on is how they give money back if the Lotto was not one. We have an NPC for this and that is thr Housing Enthusiast that holds your money if your house is Demo-ed. To tie the money specifically to the placard and create a unneeded result window is inefficient and unnecessary in my honest opinion. 2-3 days in my opinion should be enough in my opinion for Lotto Period. Its not a matter of easier for me, it should be easier for everyone to get their results and move on without being dragged out. But for that part that is my opinion.

My biggest discrepancy is where SE has one foot on being strict on one area and lenient in another that both just doesn't make sense. I rather them be either very lenient in all respectable areas or strict cause their design philosophy for this type of content just doesn't make sense.

While I understand some people feel like "if you dont use your house you should lose it" comes from a attitude and resentment for not getting a house for a long time. I read here that there is so many inconsistencies with the system. Thats why I say simply logging in should rectify it and simplify it. But eh, its a massive flawed system. Can't have everything right?

Housing is literally being held together by elmer's glue and prayer. We won't be getting any changes unless they rip it apart and fix it from the ground up (which they most likely don't view as worth it since they're deadset on having the neighborhood system that we have).

[Zaredth]

Housing is literally being held together by elmer's glue and prayer. We won't be getting any changes unless they rip it apart and fix it from the ground up (which they most likely don't view as worth it since they're deadset on having the neighborhood system that we have).

True, I would be fine waiting though but that is just me, whether I have a house or not.

[Zaredth]

that makes sense then, i have a repair node right as i walk in so the distinction was never something clear

I don't use one cause I repair my own stuff but its a good point!