FFXIV's Future

[DiaDeem]

And here's the point. I read a lot on here about how the game is too easy, how SE isn't really trying anymore, etc. Yet on the forums and subreddits of other MMOs, such as WoW and ESO, they consistently praise FFXIV's accessibility. They do complain about features being locked behind the story, but they give the game high marks for not being raid-focused and for having dungeons that are relatively easy to complete.

This forum is usually the same 10 - 20 people complaining about how the game isn't exactly what they want. There's a few good arguments that pop up here and there, but for the most part, these forum should not be taken seriously, and the devs know that.

[Rufalus]

This forum is usually the same 10 - 20 people complaining about how the game isn't exactly what they want. There's a few good arguments that pop up here and there, but for the most part, these forum should not be taken seriously, and the devs know that.

Alright we're a few people. I would be interested to see the results of a survey sent to 1m+ people. Let's break this game down into its parts and rate each one on a scale from strongly dislike to strongly like. The results may differ from participation data because we all participate in stuff we don't like to grab the rewards. Let us rank things we'd like to see more or less of. I've never been surveyed, ever, so I leave my feedback on the forums sometimes and I like to think that it matters at least a little bit.

[DiaDeem]

I would be interested to see the results of a survey sent to 1m+ people.

Definitely. I posted a few weeks ago that they should send surveys via e.mail or something, so that they can get an actual consensus about how players feel about some stuff. The forums (and even Reddit) aren't the best place for channeled feedback.

[True-to-Caesar]

I don’t know about the future but SE will have to innovate and offer interesting content soon with all the new MMOs on the rise like AoC, Pax Dei, Riot’s MMO, Throne & Liberty, Blue Protocol for the weebs, Archeage 2, Palia and many others…

[DiaDeem]

Riot’s MMO

If Riot has been paying attention, we'll probably see a lot of XIV's DNA on that game. I don't trust Riot too much personally.

[VelKallor]

Blue Protocol for the weebs

I find myself wondering just what that word is supposed to mean. Playing a Japanese game makes you a "weeb"?

Seriously..?

[True-to-Caesar]

I find myself wondering just what that word is supposed to mean. Playing a Japanese game makes you a "weeb"?

Seriously..?

Super edgy anime style with super edgy story.
Focus on boob jiggle + sexualized female characters to attract coomers.

So no, playing a japanese game doesn’t make you a weeb, depends on what you play though.

I do not see Dark Souls/Elden Ring or even Yakuza as weeb games.

Any other question ?

Do any of those games even actually "Innovate" or are they just exciting because "new toy"?

Its not shocking that something new will turn heads, but the real test and question is, will it last long enough to build a large enough community and sustain itself?

Palia focuses on community, housing, gathering, hunting and chill activities. Much less combat. I do not know any MMO with that focus in mind, some have a few of those features but they’re half baked or badly implemented.

Pax Dei is action combat with focus on community and player generated content (sandbox game, no quests so I imagine a lot of exploration going on there). Will see how it goes.

Ashes of Creation is action combat too, where you can have a main and secondary class like good ol’ Guild Wars 1. Lots of possibilities there, especially with outdoor content and exploration.

I’m mainly saying SE will need to innovate to retain players because a lot of MMOs are coming out in the near future and yes will be both more dynamic gameplay-wise and with better graphics. Just need 1 to succeed and drain players from FF, WoW, GW2 and all the rest.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Super edgy anime style with super edgy story.
Focus on boob jiggle + sexualized female characters to attract coomers.

So no, playing a japanese game doesn’t make you a weeb, depends on what you play though.

I do not see Dark Souls/Elden Ring or even Yakuza as weeb games.

Any other question ?



Palia focuses on community, housing, gathering, hunting and chill activities. Much less combat. I do not know any MMO with that focus in mind, some have a few of those features but they’re half baked or badly implemented.

Pax Dei is action combat with focus on community and player generated content (sandbox game, no quests so I imagine a lot of exploration going on there). Will see how it goes.

Ashes of Creation is action combat too, where you can have a main and secondary class like good ol’ Guild Wars 1. Lots of possibilities there, especially with outdoor content and exploration.

I’m mainly saying SE will need to innovate to retain players because a lot of MMOs are coming out in the near future and yes will be both more dynamic gameplay-wise and with better graphics. Just need 1 to succeed and drain players from FF, WoW, GW2 and all the rest.

FFXIV Does all of those things that Palia does. Probly the 1 edge it has is probly Housing.

Pax Dei sounds cute, but whos knows how long that might last

Ashes I never had an interest in, and I hear mixed things

Many MMOs have come out, and just cause they have these things dont really mean they will be successful, or take away FFXIVs playerbase.
Naturally people will check them out..and its not like you cant play more then 1 MMO

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I don’t know about the future but SE will have to innovate and offer interesting content soon with all the new MMOs on the rise like AoC, Pax Dei, Riot’s MMO, Throne & Liberty, Blue Protocol for the weebs, Archeage 2, Palia and many others…

Do any of those games even actually "Innovate" or are they just exciting because "new toy"?

Its not shocking that something new will turn heads, but the real test and question is, will it last long enough to build a large enough community and sustain itself?

[ASkellington]

Do any of those games even actually "Innovate" or are they just exciting because "new toy"?

Its not shocking that something new will turn heads, but the real test and question is, will it last long enough to build a large enough community and sustain itself?

I can't speak for any of those but AA2 since I played the original and... with fixes I can see it rivalling the big name MMOs. AA has pretty good PvP, a diverse set of classes, a trade good system that's rarely seen in MMOs (as in you make goods to trade into NPCs) that also ties into the PvP nature of the game long grindy gear progression both for PvP and for even setting up your trading empire, even naval combat.

So... while I wouldn't say its innovated NOW, at the time of its release it was pretty unique and there's still nothing exactly like it on the market.

Its pitfalls were the changing of the trade system, how RNG gearing was and pay to win. If they fixed the latter problems while keeping the old trading system or making something just as enjoyable I at least would move over... despite it being heavily PvP oriented (that isn't to say it doesn't have PvE ala dungeons/raid its just not AA's main draw)