Remove Praetorium

[tsuchii]

I was sadly part of that experience when the cutscenes were skippable back in 2017 - Bosses would be killed in the middle of the cutscene I wanted to watch and I wouldn't get to actually *play* the content. I can see via my achievements that I basically took a 2 week break after that miserable experience (Mapping the Realm: Praetorium).



I remember I was absolutely miserable after being told to go watch the cutscenes at the inn. I didn't want to do that as that divorces me from the fights that connect each cutscene.

Whilst I came back, Devs don't want players to quit the game after a negative experience with their game - especially a game that has a subscription model.

I also didn't know what Party Finder was back then (because I hadn't done any content that required Party Finder before, and PF is one of several dozen interaction-heavy menus in this game). There was no way before going into the dungeon beforehand that that would have been better.

Looking back, do I understand why people skipped cutscenes in Duty Finder? Of course, the dungeon was like 40+ minutes with cutscenes, 10-15 minutes if you skip everything, and I don't recall if there was any added loot bonus to the MSQ dungeons like Prae.

Some part of the design had to change.

I am happy that MSQ roulette exists in its current form so new players do not have the same awful experience I had.

I am not happy. There's a reason people complained rewatching a 20minute movie THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY seen. There are alternatives. Put it on solo duty.

[Jojoya]

I am not happy. There's a reason people complained rewatching a 20minute movie THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY seen. There are alternatives. Put it on solo duty.

You are correct, there are alternatives.

Don't queue for MSQ roulette and then you don't have to re-watch the 20 minute movie. There are lots of other options for getting XP and tomestones that you can choose from.

Everyone who keeps arguing that new players should be forced into using Duty Support forgets that MSQ roulette is designed as is specifically for the new player experience. Otherwise, those 3 duties would be rolled into the 50/60/70/80 roulette where they technically have belonged all along.

Is that the outcome you want?

[Masekase_Hurricane]

LMAO it's not even that slow now it takes what 20 mins?

[UkcsAlias]

LMAO it's not even that slow now it takes what 20 mins?

I would say 23mins is closer, but like 18mins in that is cutscenes. Its still the longest duty in that roulette, but its at least not the 45mins it used to be, where the combat part was effectively non existant.

I only join the dungeon if i need tomes. Or when for leveling im at 59,69,79 etc and already want to reach the next one quickly.

(i still miss the 'how very glib' voice line)

[tsuchii]

I would say 23mins is closer, but like 18mins in that is cutscenes. Its still the longest duty in that roulette, but its at least not the 45mins it used to be, where the combat part was effectively non existant.

I only join the dungeon if i need tomes. Or when for leveling im at 59,69,79 etc and already want to reach the next one quickly.

(i still miss the 'how very glib' voice line)

IDK what 23 minute prae are you running but it's at least 30mins normally.

[KatherineOrnitier]

If it was made a solo?
Wouldn't that fix the problem?

[DPZ2]

If it was made a solo?
Wouldn't that fix the problem?

I'm sure they considered that. You can already do the two dungeon instances with a Duty Support group. The second half of the Ultima Trial is now a solo instance as well.

The whole thing only needs to be done once. What "problem" is being fixed?

[tsuchii]

If it was made a solo?
Wouldn't that fix the problem?

It's already AVAILABLE solo!!!

[Arohk]

It's already AVAILABLE solo!!!

that doesnt stop people from queuing up for it forcing others to suffer through it again.
make it solo ONLY

[Jojoya]

Well for me the problem is, so far there was a reason at least to do it, i got good XP doing it, now it has no good XP reward, you have cutscenes with 4people, when they can make it skippable, and if 1 people didn't skip the video will go on... at least players can have a choose , now you don't get XP, still need to watch the cutscenes and the fights are long, i skip the entire MSQ for my daily duty, because it's not worth doing it at all. I don't even know why there is not a system in place for skip when everyone already did the MSQ... I don't think it's so hard to implement it, and then you have something that works for everyone, for new people and old players too, so the solution is there, but they always do it the most frustrating way ever.

So why are you still doing it if you feel it has no good rewards?

Don't bother queuing for MSQ roulette and your problem is solved. You won't need to watch cutscenes and you'll have 25 minutes available to do other things to get your XP and/or tomestones.

that doesnt stop people from queuing up for it forcing others to suffer through it again.
make it solo ONLY

Same response. Don't do MSQ roulette if it bothers you.

Keep in mind that you are also queueing for it and "forcing" others to "suffer" when you all have the same option not to queue for it.