aetherochemical research facility changes

[Boldprint]

just did aetherochemical research facility for the first time since it was changed, didn't even know it was change and its horrible. its probably the worst change i have even seen i a mmo. i mean seriously, what were y'all thinking! guess this means i will take the penalty, because it is not fun at all and i wont be doing it again.

[Elkanah]

just did aetherochemical research facility for the first time since it was changed, didn't even know it was change and its horrible. its probably the worst change i have even seen i a mmo. i mean seriously, what were y'all thinking! guess this means i will take the penalty, because it is not fun at all and i wont be doing it again.

What's the horrible part about it that bothers you exactly?

[Arohk]

What's the horrible part about it that bothers you exactly?

I think the new bossfight is a lot better than the old one.

[Elkanah]

I think the new bossfight is a lot better than the old one.

I think so too! I thought it was an improvement. Considering how many new players died because they didnt get pulled into the abyss on the room-wide aoe, it helped alleviate the issues entirely

[Jojoya]

Players had been asking SE for a long time to fix ilvl sync issues on end of expansion MSQ duties that made them too easy compared to other less important duties and SE finally delivered.

It's definitely an improvement even if it's going to take players off guard their first time through, especially if they're used to the old version.

Like other fights, it's not that bad once you learn the mechanics.

[Boldprint]

its the new boss fight, its not better it sucks, no one was asking for harder msq content. they made very punishing, before if a someone was new and under geared the rest of the group could carry them through and you wouldn't be stuck in that crap hole for a hour. now it just sucks.

[Tiramu]

its the new boss fight, its not better it sucks, no one was asking for harder msq content. they made very punishing, before if a someone was new and under geared the rest of the group could carry them through and you wouldn't be stuck in that crap hole for a hour. now it just sucks.

Thats not the approach you should be taking, and is a player problem not a game problem. The new fight isn't even that hard, if you're rolling up under geared to the point that you need a hard carry through content then there is an answer to that. Gear up.

[Jojoya]

no one was asking for harder msq content

Which is absolutely incorrect. There are many players that have been asking for MSQ content to be increased in difficulty.

Normally i disagree with them but when it comes to the original versions of the initial expansion level cap duties, I usually agree. It's an awkward experience when new players do the level 59/69/79 dungeons and ilvl sync places the party at an appropriate ilvl for the dungeon then turns around at the first level 60/70/80 dungeon and ilvl syncs the party to X.5 ilvls instead of starting X.0 ilvls so it's faceroll. Those duties end up a letdown for what should be the more memorable moments of the MSQ.

Now Ascian Prime feels like an Ascian Prime (comparable to the player level) where in the past it was "I thought Ascians were supposed to be powerful and dangerous, this was easy". You can still carry that one player through the duty if the rest know what they're doing. Right now, we're still in the learning period as players who haven't been in the duty since the change get used to the new mechanics. As more learn them, runs will go more smoothly.

If you're struggling, use Duty Support to practice. The NPCs know what to do, learn from them.

[Ardeth]

Just had to vote abandon it. The new player we had was too new, and the other folks kept eating the aoes. I was the only one not just dying left and right. I saw that vote abandon pop up, and I bounced. Way way way way way, too over tuned for newer players. I was explaining it to them, and it was not even registering in their brains. What was SE thinking? I'm going to auto leave from it from now on. Seriously, no joke. I'm not dealing with that again. That is a new player meat grinder.

[Iscah]

I have done this dungeon a few times since the remake – one was a bit rough but overall I have not had issues with it. It was better than trying to tell people to get in the black holes for Universal Manipulation, and having to mass-Esuna them afterwards.