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    Change Patron of "the" Fates to Patron of Fates?

    Hallo, so recently I received this title for completing the Shared FATE "Free Market Friend" achievement for all Endwalker zones. In my opinion, I feel that the title should be altered slightly to remove the "the", as it comes off as clunky English. As a title, it sounds strange as it misses context to specify which Fates are being referred to, at least to those who don't know what the title is for. "Patron of Fates" sounds smoother, and you can consider removing the plurality of Fate as well, although it doesn't sound like an error.
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    "The Fates" commonly refers to some set of gods who are involved in spinning, measuring, and cutting the threads of a mortal lives. "Patron of the Fates" is not clunky English.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    "The Fates" commonly refers to some set of gods who are involved in spinning, measuring, and cutting the threads of a mortal lives. "Patron of the Fates" is not clunky English.
    If the title acquisition was related in any way to those sets of gods I might have agreed. But clearly since the "fates" refer to FATEs it IS clunky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    If the title acquisition was related in any way to those sets of gods
    There are lots of references in the game where the source material does not relate to the content at all. They're references.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    There are lots of references in the game where the source material does not relate to the content at all. They're references.
    Cite any, then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    Cite any, then?
    • The title "Eorzean Ninja Warrior" given for completing the "Eorzean Nimble Warrior" course
    • The FATE title "It's Not Lupus" having nothing to do with medicine, disease, or a sarcastic doctor
    • The title "Dawn Treader" having nothing to do with a ship or Narnia
    • The FATE title "He Taketh It with His Eyes" refers to a verse in the biblical Book of Job that is in part a description of a behemoth, though the typical Final Fantasy behemoth does not match the description therein
    • The title "Blue Ranger" given for completing blue mage content referring to Power Rangers, even though blue mage is not a ranger, power or otherwise
    • The title "The Necromancer" having nothing to do with being a necromancer
    • The achievement series "Bring Out Your Dead" is for leveling Black Mage, which doesn't have anything to do with collecting corpses
    • The achievement series "How Deep the Rabbit Hole Goes" is for leveling Red Mage, which doesn't have anything to do with Wonderland, the Matrix, or ingesting a literal red pill
    • The achievement "Veni Veni Venias" given for defeating Sephirot EX is a reference to the background music that plays during the completely unrelated FF7 final battle with Sephiroth
    • Everything about Gordias "the Father" and Midas "the Son", which refer to the Phrygian kings Gordias and Midas (the latter being the legendary figure who could turn all he touched into gold)
    You can't take everything in the game literally. The title "Patron of the Fates" is a reference to gods that preside over Fate and has nothing directly to do with FATEs the Full Active Time Events, and that's fine.
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    There's also the Fate titled "Iron Contra Affair" which has nothing to do about the blunder of trying to sell weapons in hopes to get back hostages as well.
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