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    Better incentives for staying on your DC

    Ok first im on Dynamis is where i notice this issue (also i know we are new, i know we have half the servers and all that). Right now the FC i am in has about 73 members but we have ~27% of those player who log on are already on another DC and haven't been on Dynamis in weeks (possibly month or longer). I realize if a lot of FC have this that is a lot of potential players that really are not on our server at all in the end. I understand it incentives for newer players and fresh ones to come to server like this (road to 80, the feathers and such which is why i am in a group of 4 friends came here) My thing is OTHER than just buying a house (which seems to be the main reason most more veteran players came to this server) do you think FFXIV should give players of newer servers / less populated more incentives to stay on their DC and do stuff here vs it creating a thing where despite you being on a DC you really never do any actually activities or engagement in that DC (dungeon, pvp, alliance raid and so on). Idk just was something i was wondering as a newer player (been playing since Nov so just have 1 job at 90 so far) but it just seems yea getting people to move to the DC isn't super bad just cuz you put housing fishing hook out there but the problem becomes more engagement in that DC and keeping players there to help invest in its growth and community vs just being a extension of houses for another datacenter
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    Halicarnassus
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    People jumping over to other datacenters will always hurt Dynamis. They need to just add what I suggested months ago. Cross datacenter queuing. It makes this thread irrelevant and fixes the problem.
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    They have to come back eventually if they want to access their gear storage and stuff, but the world travel between servers on the same data center was recently implemented and likely won't lose its appeal since some servers just have way more going in them than in others.

    It's a bit sad, because it does impact overworld stuff in a big way. Like there's less people to do Fates, though the Fates do scale down. There's more people to take your server's hunt marks. If I were you, I'd find out the most popular server on your DC, and try out world travel yourself. Easier to bend in the wind instead of break and all that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    They have to come back eventually if they want to access their gear storage and stuff, but the world travel between servers on the same data center was recently implemented and likely won't lose its appeal since some servers just have way more going in them than in others.

    It's a bit sad, because it does impact overworld stuff in a big way. Like there's less people to do Fates, though the Fates do scale down. There's more people to take your server's hunt marks. If I were you, I'd find out the most popular server on your DC, and try out world travel yourself. Easier to bend in the wind instead of break and all that.
    This isn't world travel this is DC travel, most the 27% i mentioned are on Aether DC with a couple on Primal last i checked as i had been watching this trend for a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcg55ss View Post
    This isn't world travel this is DC travel, most the 27% i mentioned are on Aether DC with a couple on Primal last i checked as i had been watching this trend for a bit.
    Oh I misunderstood. Still, what I said stands mostly.
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    There's no incentive that can convince people to stay and do things like roulettes on their home DC. Unless you make it extremely overpowered, but even then you'll have plenty of omnis that just don't care, while the amount of buffs you'd have to give would be on the extreme/game breaking side.

    If you wanted to really do something then you'd have to go in the opposite direction and add consequences instead. Roulettes already give solid rewards, nerf the road to 80 buff off your main DC and whatever else. No one wants this though.

    The real solution is just cross DC parties and queues. That's literally the only thing that's acceptable. And it needs to happen because it's not just Dynamis that's going to struggle. Eventually people are going to develop their own notions of which DCs within each region they think have good queue times, and which don't. It doesn't matter if it's accurate or not, but once that happens everyone will travel to the "quickest" DC in their region, leaving queues in other DCs struggling, even if that DC has a healthy population of people.
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    *removes bonus from roulettes if you are in a different DC*
    *increase mount drops by X% if the PT is made in your DC*
    Can I be the next CEO, SE? I promise I won't bully the Dissidia team!
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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    *removes bonus from roulettes if you are in a different DC*
    *increase mount drops by X% if the PT is made in your DC*
    Can I be the next CEO, SE? I promise I won't bully the Dissidia team!
    I would. NT was a disgrace.

    I'd give more money to have a better character creator on FF14, better gearsets, better thought-out raids and class design. Fund a proper Dissidia game and not an arcade reject. Fund stuff like Type-Next and Fortress. Make Vagrant Story 2. And stop sustaining Brave Exvius because what the crap.

    Cross-DC would help very marginally, but at the same time I feel like the same can be achieved by having incentives to go to servers with lower population and clear out stuff that's massively populated. More than they have. And Cross-DC travel would help a lot, because then people won't feel like they lost their friends.

    Cross-DC FCs would be a good start :^)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    I would. NT was a disgrace.
    It's called showing restraint in the workplace, lol.
    Without that, I feel like I would bully our clients every time they asked for something really dumb or outright contradictory!
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    Heres a chaotic idea. Get rid of queuing when you visit another server but allow cross-DC + cross-region party finder along with pulling players from all over for queues.

    Actually just being able to queue up with every region and DC would alleviate a lot of the queue times but I realize this has been hard for them to implement.
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