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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    They should probably, like, I dunno... just not do that?
    And do what? Meander in the backlines and do absolutely nothing? Run off and try to find some random skirmish of 2-3 people accomplishing nothing?

    The zerg IS frontlines. Going back to the old damage values means melee simply cannot participate in the objectives and you'll just have almost entirely ranged players on the field with the exception of tanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    And do what? Meander in the backlines and do absolutely nothing? Run off and try to find some random skirmish of 2-3 people accomplishing nothing?

    The zerg IS frontlines. Going back to the old damage values means melee simply cannot participate in the objectives and you'll just have almost entirely ranged players on the field with the exception of tanks.
    Oh no, the nontank melee actually have to play smart in frontlines instead of diving headlong knowing their inherent 60% DR will cushion most of the initial burst from enemies they will get.

    When I play reaper on frontlines, I don't worry about the damage output of enemies, I worry about the amount of CC that gets offloaded on me. Same with Samurai. Whoever said it was like playing Dynasty Warriors is right on the money. When you play as a ranged physical/caster you might as well be playing with 1HP for how squishy you are in comparison.
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasingstars View Post
    Oh no, the nontank melee actually have to play smart in frontlines instead of diving headlong knowing their inherent 60% DR will cushion most of the initial burst from enemies they will get.
    Yes, heaven forbid a melee has the durability to be in the front lines because, ya know, melee and all that. "Playing smart" in the old values just meant play ranged because melee would just evaporate trying to do anything other than running around in the backlines contributing to nothing.

    The 60% DR is fine. Melee still explode if they over extend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Yes, heaven forbid a melee has the durability to be in the front lines because, ya know, melee and all that. "Playing smart" in the old values just meant play ranged because melee would just evaporate trying to do anything other than running around in the backlines contributing to nothing.

    The 60% DR is fine. Melee still explode if they over extend.
    Now that's funny.
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    Now that's funny.
    Its really not. With the exception of Nin, pretty much all of the melee are easy to kill if they overextend and get caught instead of falling back with their team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Its really not. With the exception of Nin, pretty much all of the melee are easy to kill if they overextend and get caught instead of falling back with their team.
    Take this guy's word for it, he solos melee on BRD in FL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kansene View Post
    Take this guy's word for it, he solos melee on BRD in FL.
    lol i doubt it, dude probably steals kills which is actually pretty easy to do on BRD.
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kansene View Post
    Take this guy's word for it, he solos melee on BRD in FL.
    Sorry that you're bad at pvp?
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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    The zerg IS frontlines. Going back to the old damage values means melee simply cannot participate in the objectives and you'll just have almost entirely ranged players on the field with the exception of tanks.
    ...
    weren't you also of the opinion that sam lb + chiten bs is just fine, accusing people who didn't think so being just some unenlightened dumdums was, gasp, wanting to spam the buttons willy nilly when the obvious counterplay is to disengage and sit on your hands?

    yeah, don't think melees deserve tank level dr
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    Last edited by Burmecia; 03-18-2023 at 04:21 PM.