Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
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Yea Ninja and Monk are honestly the most obnoxious ones to pin down. With the current stuff like 60% DR, they are the reason why we can't have diminishing returns on crowd control effects. Like if I had a nickel for every time I have seen 4 or 5 people having to gang up on a single Monk or Ninja just to knock out them, I would have enough money to pay for a yearly sub.

Your also right they should be just directly tweaking the potency numbers instead of this 60% nightmare. As at least then they could start to find some sweet spot. Like for Marksman's Spite as its the highest potency I can think of at the moment, maybe 36000 is too high, maybe 35000 or 34000 or 33000.

Quote Originally Posted by Kansene View Post
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Mostly my own experiences with frontlines, but ninja also just has the tools to be extremely annoying, like if you can get the aggro of a few people from an enemy team, you can lead them on a wild goose chase. Sure the ninja isn't contributing to whatever objective, but neither are the people getting baited. The smart ones realize what the ninja is doing and bail, while the rest just tunnel vision.

Agreed on Dancer. It really just feels awkward to play with their damage reduction. As even its basic circular aoe ability they channel requires them to get into melee.

Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
this, make pvp fun again! please!
Very much this. Currently the main things I have found fun in frontlines are

Monk: Shatter/Secure where I just lurk in areas to purposefully knock people off ledges.
Ninja: Uncapping points or capping enemy. Sometimes leading people on a chase, sometimes baiting them into my team. Also just using the limit break to mess with stuff like enemys with a big battle high like dark knights or ninjas/dragoons/samurai.
Machinist: Similar to monk. Also being that person that just puts an autoturret on capture spots on Onsal to prevent captures and get cheeky assists.
Bard: Acting as a trapper/catcher when helping out someone like a dragoon for example to make them fed; focus target on hunting partner to keep track of them in the chaos.

And thats because i just generally feel the player experience has become less fun since they damage reduction buffs.