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  1. #41
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    Towa-Musa's Avatar
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    Towa Musa
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Kansene View Post
    The first time, I gave you the benefit of the doubt and chalked it up to you maybe overreaching with your argument. It's a quick thing to engage in a bit of hyperbole, so no sweat.
    The second time you doubled down on it. Okay weird, you kept insisting that you're doing this stuff, despite it literally not being possible even in ideal conditions, like I showed you at that point.
    This is the third time you stick by that claim.

    Ransu, what you're proposing you're doing here is a lie.
    You are not soloing any melees in PvP, even if you have battle high 5, as a bard.
    You may be killing melees that already have half HP.
    You may be killing melees that have no cooldowns, have spent all their MP healing up damage from other people, that are also bad at the game.

    You may be killing melees if said melee is a dragoon who activates his damage taken debuff, in addition to being boosted by your own LB, your own Apex Arrow, an AST's Balance, a SCH's Galvanize, and the dragoon runs into a MCH's turret. But this scenario is not you soloing someone.

    To solo a melee character, you would have to deal 60K damage to that character, not counting them using guard, MP heals, or any of their job's defensives. 60K damage through their 60% damage reduction.
    I have tested this many times by now, set up absolutely ideal laboratory conditions to deal the absolute maximum amount of burst damage on a stationary target that doesn't even fight back, and guess what: It's not 60K damage, even when stacking the damage buffs in the most flattering way possible, standing at max range for powerful shot, basically doing everything that is literally possible to maximize damage, then accounting for a theoretical BH5, stacking it in various ways to account for the fact that I'm not 100% on how the effects are stacked in practice within the FL itself.
    And guess what: The damage didn't reach 60K.
    It is not possible to kill an AFK melee job in FL on a Bard even with BH5. And that was your claim. That within the silence window alone, you could solo melees, and you do it frequently.

    When I confronted you with this in the past, you just linked me a picture of a scoreboard where you obviously stuck with your team, where you assisted friendlies, and obviously participated in group fights the entire, or very near the entire game. In other words, a screenshot that had nothing to do with what I asked you.

    But even that would be fine if you weren't being a condescending tool about things. Yet here we are.

    I ask you again, Ransu:
    How are you soloing these people? How are you killing them inside Silence windows?
    How are you, completely, 100% on your own, taking a melee player from 100% to 0% with ZERO outside assistance?

    Answer me truthfully, show me literally any kind of proof, and I'll be happy to admit to severely misjudging you.
    If you can't, then shove your comments where the sun doesn't shine and pike off.
    spike right off back to WoW tbf
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  2. #42
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    Astralrisk's Avatar
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    Legendairy Products
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    Exodus
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    Monk Lv 100
    If you think it's that bad on BRD, god forbid you get into a 1v1 on SMN and just hit like styrofoam because SE only designed the PvP rework with CC in mind.
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  3. #43
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    Kansene's Avatar
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    Rajeko Thunderbright
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    Lich
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    Scholar Lv 98
    Quote Originally Posted by Astralrisk View Post
    If you think it's that bad on BRD, god forbid you get into a 1v1 on SMN and just hit like styrofoam because SE only designed the PvP rework with CC in mind.
    It's not bad being ranged tbh, brd is excellent at setting up kills and their buffs are nice.
    And smn...... exists.
    I'm taking issue with the blatant lie that ranged jobs can 1v1 melee when the math literally can't support it.
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  4. #44
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    Llynethil's Avatar
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    Llynethil Kindle
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    Balmung
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Only melee's you can 1v1 as ranged in fl are people who have 0 clue about how to play their job, even someone half decent at their melee job is never dying to a ranged in a 1v1 ever in fl, that's 100% fact, anyone claiming otherwise is straight up lying.
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  5. #45
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    Kathleen_'s Avatar
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    Kathleen Nadinea
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I agree what 50% would be a good sweet spot for melee.
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  6. #46
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    Niko'to Seleuca
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    Omega
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    Lancer Lv 100
    why isnt ransu responding... guys???
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    Give me more Keeper of the Moon rep!

  7. #47
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    Towa-Musa's Avatar
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    Towa Musa
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    why isnt ransu responding... guys???
    because he got called out on his BS lmao knew he was full of it the second he said he could solo people as a bard in FL hahahhahahaha
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  8. #48
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    why isnt ransu responding... guys???
    Because I was busy doing things... ya know, life and all that going to the dealership to finish the paperwork on the gr86 I'm buying and then I came home and played CoD with friends. I also just don't care about kansenes post. Chalking things up to simple numbers is usually a sign of a bad player. Not to mention his post awhile back about the whole thing had incorrect numbers to begin with. I don't give him the time of day because I don't need to. Good, bad, mid, don't care. I do my thing in FL and pretty much always walk away from 20 kills every game and I have more than my fair share of solo kills.
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  9. #49
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    Kansene's Avatar
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    Rajeko Thunderbright
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    Lich
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    Scholar Lv 98
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Because I was busy doing things... ya know, life and all that going to the dealership to finish the paperwork on the gr86 I'm buying and then I came home and played CoD with friends. I also just don't care about kansenes post. Chalking things up to simple numbers is usually a sign of a bad player. Not to mention his post awhile back about the whole thing had incorrect numbers to begin with. I don't give him the time of day because I don't need to. Good, bad, mid, don't care. I do my thing in FL and pretty much always walk away from 20 kills every game and I have more than my fair share of solo kills.
    I'd love to see your take on the math then. I freely admitted to not being sure how it's stacked so I literally gave it the most favorable numbers possible to help your argument. But I suspect that won't happen, will it?
    When you're unable to properly defend your point, you suddenly don't care?
    I'm done with you though, welcome to ignore, you're the very first to make it.
    You haven't made a single argument in good faith. It just boils down to "you're bad" whenever someone disagrees with you, and your only source is "trust me, bro".

    The worst part though?
    You're probably genuinely good. You simply exaggerated what you're capable of, and you're unable to admit it. You chose the weirdest hill ever to die on.
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    Last edited by Kansene; 03-15-2023 at 09:11 PM.

  10. #50
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    Garten's Avatar
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    Garten Rei
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    As a ninja in FL i feel Immortal. If i change to whm i can explode in a second of 2 ppl attack me. Yesterday a Simple Attack of a GNB (while a was whm) at bh5 put me at 50% hp.
    This Is not good and something should change imho.
    Also dunno, maybe in FL recuperate should cost 5000 mp? Ppl should die more often
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