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    Are the memoria crystals the same as concept crystals?

    There's a pattern on the crystals used to trap things used during the Contramemoria that are like the ones that appear on concept crystals you find in Anamnesis Anyder. As the title asks are they the same or just a skin reuse?
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    It's a similar concept used in reverse. The Contramemoria crystals are basically auracite that's being used to trap the twisted beings that are coming about due to that old war. Not sure on the exact mechanisms for it, but they differ in color from the original concept crystals in Amanesis.

    But considering the 13th's war was orchestrated by the Ascians, and the concept crystals in Amanesis are Ascian creations, it makes sense that they'd be similar.
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    There's something to that, thought maybe not directly.

    Memoria crystals, we know are auracite, types of crystals that can absorb energies in some manner and release them. Not unlike regular aetheric crystals or magicite, but rather than being aspected to one element they can absorb and seal and release a miriad of aetherial energies.

    We see this with white auracite which can hold ascians' incorporeal forms for a small period of time, making it impossible for them to flee into the rift. We see this with the Heart of Sabik, which holds the spell Ultima and seemingly is the main component used to hold the Ultima Weapon's captive primals used to empower the machine. We see this also with the auracite created by the extradimensional Ultima, which can hold emotions and aether and absorb them and release them to transform the wielders into what gets termed lucavi or grant miracles.

    Memoria, meanwhile, we know were used to absorb eidolons, the equivalents to primals from the Thirteenth and, as per Unukalhai, slowly corrupted those wielding them into creatures themselves, which implies it turned people into creatures similar to eidolons. This to me, implies that the very nature of voidsent is similar to that of eidolons, which are corrupted creation magicks, which, yes, were stored in concept crystals.

    However, it seems less that memoria are concept crystals, but rather that auracite can serve to seal concepts and arcane and aetherial creatures. As it stands crystals are merely defined by their capabilities and storing of energies, and less so by some intrinsic quality. For all we know, concept crystals could be any crystal just with concepts stored within.
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    I know that they're basically our Auracite with the way they work. Yet it feels odd that they'd share the same markings as the concept crystals on the tables in The Archive Eternal section of Anammesis Anyder. Even the one with the ones attached to the walls with the rotating words in yellow have the same etchings at the middle. So, maybe the Ascians taught the WoLs of the 13th how to make them. Yet just like how they snuck in the tempering aspect to summoning they made them very leaky. As you have to channel aether into the ones the Benthos use to set not updated Io upon us.
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