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    Giving up your plot should be easy and not be too restrictive

    I just relinqused my (17 mil) house today because i wanted to unsub and take a break from the game. my options of getting rid of my house was:

    • Give up 80% of the plot and keep furniture.

    • Wait 45 days for it to auto demo and resub to log in within 35 days after that to get 80% of the plot back + my furniture.

    • Don't log in let it auto demolish and don't claim anything within that time window.

    I don't understand why all these options have to suck that much when people still want houses and they encourage people to take breaks from the game.

    It feels bad! But I've come to terms with it but I hope this changes going forward and I don't want to see these conditions going into other aspects of the game.
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    Was this plot owned by your character on Moogle...?

    You can remove all the furniture before quitting and just leave the house empty. If you happen to resub soon after it's auto-demolished, you get some money back. If you don't, you lose the money you would have lost anyway by manually demolishing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Was this plot owned by your character on Moogle...?

    You can remove all the furniture before quitting and just leave the house empty. If you happen to resub soon after it's auto-demolished, you get some money back. If you don't, you lose the money you would have lost anyway by manually demolishing.

    To sell your plot so you can get 80% of the plot value back

    Having to wait 45 days and sub seem excessive no?
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    Last edited by Hondurez; 02-26-2023 at 09:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hondurez View Post
    To sell your plot so you can get 80% of the plot value back

    Having to wait 45 days and sub seem excessive no?
    That's something I've brought up in the distant past. SE should give players an incentive to voluntarily relinquish a house they are no longer interested in owning to free the plots up for players who are still trying to get a house.

    At the time, the typical response was "that would just make things even more profitable for the house flippers" since this was when there was no lottery and relocation bypassed the purchase timer.

    Now that the lottery prevents that sort of activity (other than selling FC with house outright), it may be a good time for SE to revisit whether someone voluntarily relinquishing a house should get the same 80% back as those who have their house auto-demolished. The current policy of no refund encourages players to hold onto plots they don't want because they've already paid for it, or at the very least hold onto it for the additional 45 days to get the refund instead of getting it back into the supply for the next lottery period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Now that the lottery prevents that sort of activity (other than selling FC with house outright), it may be a good time for SE to revisit whether someone voluntarily relinquishing a house should get the same 80% back as those who have their house auto-demolished. The current policy of no refund encourages players to hold onto plots they don't want because they've already paid for it, or at the very least hold onto it for the additional 45 days to get the refund instead of getting it back into the supply for the next lottery period.
    On the other hand, making it too cheap to buy and demolish a house could lead to people buying one just because it costs them nearly nothing in the end. People get 50% of the cost back if they win the lottery without finalizing, which is a bigger loss than taking the house and waiting 45 days for 80%. In my opinion 50% would be a fair amount for both auto-demolish and manual demolish. Then people wouldn't benefit from buying a house or keeping it for 45 days, but they would still get something back for giving up the house.

    Also, Hondurez, if your house was on the Moogle server like your forum avatar is, there is no auto-demolish on EU servers right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    On the other hand, making it too cheap to buy and demolish a house could lead to people buying one just because it costs them nearly nothing in the end. People get 50% of the cost back if they win the lottery without finalizing, which is a bigger loss than taking the house and waiting 45 days for 80%. In my opinion 50% would be a fair amount for both auto-demolish and manual demolish. Then people wouldn't benefit from buying a house or keeping it for 45 days, but they would still get something back for giving up the house.

    Also, Hondurez, if your house was on the Moogle server like your forum avatar is, there is no auto-demolish on EU servers right now.
    Already got rid of it and wikis for housing I read had nothing about auto demo not being enabled for my server either way would be annoying having to have that in the back of my head that it might be enabled at some time.

    Im actually curious how they can make housing feels so good but getting one and selling one feel so toxic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hondurez View Post
    Already got rid of it and wikis for housing I read had nothing about auto demo not being enabled for my server either way would be annoying having to have that in the back of my head that it might be enabled at some time.

    Im actually curious how they can make housing feels so good but getting one and selling one feel so toxic.
    they enabled it then paused it a few weeks ago because the Turkey Earthquake. Unfortunately it sucks because you could have unsubscribed for a year or more and it would have been fine /o\
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    On the other hand, making it too cheap to buy and demolish a house could lead to people buying one just because it costs them nearly nothing in the end. People get 50% of the cost back if they win the lottery without finalizing, which is a bigger loss than taking the house and waiting 45 days for 80%. In my opinion 50% would be a fair amount for both auto-demolish and manual demolish. Then people wouldn't benefit from buying a house or keeping it for 45 days, but they would still get something back for giving up the house.

    Also, Hondurez, if your house was on the Moogle server like your forum avatar is, there is no auto-demolish on EU servers right now.
    Players are already buying houses because it costs them nearly nothing. It's not going to make things even worse.

    If the supply was adequate in the first place, players wouldn't be afraid to give up a house because they could get another later without problem. They also wouldn't be in a rush to buy.
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    It wouldn't be a gil sink if you could get your gil back...
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    It hasn't been much of a gil sink since 2017 at the latest.
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