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    There are evil, satanic, ToS breaking addons that just filter RMT chat and even venue spam if you want. If some random person can make tools like that, what's SE's excuse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    There are evil, satanic, ToS breaking addons that just filter RMT chat and even venue spam if you want. If some random person can make tools like that, what's SE's excuse?
    SE's excuse is then the tea club that deal with the reports and all manner of...whatever they deal with, would no longer have a reason to go to work.

    the TOS is never the problem, if people behaved better with others, there would be virtually no need for a ToS, no matter how much you thinks its restrictive etc, its there for a single reason, people are ....well, fill in the what they are. but if people werent people, we wouldnt need the ToS, so that falls on the shoulders of the others that we play with in any mmo. (not singling you out Raoabolic, just commenting on the comment before about the "restrictive" ToS from someone else)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    SE's excuse is then the tea club that deal with the reports and all manner of...whatever they deal with, would no longer have a reason to go to work.

    the TOS is never the problem, if people behaved better with others, there would be virtually no need for a ToS, no matter how much you thinks its restrictive etc, its there for a single reason, people are ....well, fill in the what they are. but if people werent people, we wouldnt need the ToS, so that falls on the shoulders of the others that we play with in any mmo. (not singling you out Raoabolic, just commenting on the comment before about the "restrictive" ToS from someone else)
    I can get behind what you say in a way, but realistically you are asking for everyone (not just the internet) to be civil regardless if one person's civility is counterintuitive with another person's civility. Good luck with that one, I'll be waiting for that sweeping change any day now. Any day now...
    Any day...
    ;A;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    I can get behind what you say in a way, but realistically you are asking for everyone (not just the internet) to be civil regardless if one person's civility is counterintuitive with another person's civility. Good luck with that one, I'll be waiting for that sweeping change any day now. Any day now...
    Any day...
    ;A;
    I wouldnt hold your breath. I dont think humanity is mature enough as a species to be that way. doesnt matter anyway, we are running towards extinction faster than the mythical lemmings ran for the cliff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    I wouldnt hold your breath. I dont think humanity is mature enough as a species to be that way. doesnt matter anyway, we are running towards extinction faster than the mythical lemmings ran for the cliff
    There might be a- eh, we are going off on a tanget. All i'l saying is that the devs should just look at the evil addons list and see what they can implement easily based on the number of downloads each addon has. RMT chat block needs to be priority, fix the latency tax, and chat bubbles come in a close 3rd!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    There are evil, satanic, ToS breaking addons that just filter RMT chat and even venue spam if you want. If some random person can make tools like that, what's SE's excuse?
    I had wanted to make a topic that in the most recent update to FFXI on Febuary 10th they added a term filter that you can add terms into. Yes it is as archaic as you expect and it is a word document you have to edit outside of the game but I would personally love to see something similar for 14 in a more modern implementation of course. So it isn't even just third party addons but the other team for a much less popular game in the same office figured it out.
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    I know that this isn't a popular answer, but here it is: just be a decent person in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy View Post
    I know that this isn't a popular answer, but here it is: just be a decent person in the game.
    I used to like this answer, but sadly I must ask what "being a decent person" means. Different people have different ideas of what that is.

    One individual might consider giving friendly and honest advice about abilities to be a decent quality; whereas another considers that to be an attack regardless of how well packaged and delivered. Someone might even consider saying this to you to be inappropriate and not decent.
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    We need 3 simple new options to Report. Those 3 options will be:

    1.) Retainer Names / right click the Name on the Market Board and Report the inappropriate Retainer Name. No extra Text or explanation needet.

    2.) Adventure Plate / right click on an open Plate and Report it as an inappropriate Adventure Plate. While that Report gets send there should also be send automaticly a Screenshot of that Adventure Plate in the moment it got Reported. There should be an option for an explanation why the Reporter finds that Adventure Plate inappropriate.

    3.) Toxic Players in the Chat / right click the Player Name in the Chat and Report inappropriate language. There should be a Time Stamp like 10 Minutes before and 10 Minutes after the Report where the Chat of the Reported Player gets send automaticly with the Report. So there will be no confusing, no missunderstanding, no false accusations.

    3 easy Clicks for the most Stuff. There is no need for a long Text Message to the GM's. Just a simple click and everything else takes it's way. Market Board Bots are another thing but that needs more Work and we all know how often they get banned .... so wasted time

    For all 3 Reports should be a simple Warning, which the Player has to click away. That Warning could be a simple Text : False Reporting gets punished. Are you sure you want to Report this? If a Player gets cought with a false Report he should get a 12-24 hour Account Bann. That will prevent from false Reports and dumb Karen dessisions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aneshda View Post
    We need 3 simple new options to Report. Those 3 options will be:

    1.) Retainer Names / right click the Name on the Market Board and Report the inappropriate Retainer Name. No extra Text or explanation needet.

    2.) Adventure Plate / right click on an open Plate and Report it as an inappropriate Adventure Plate. While that Report gets send there should also be send automaticly a Screenshot of that Adventure Plate in the moment it got Reported. There should be an option for an explanation why the Reporter finds that Adventure Plate inappropriate.

    3.) Toxic Players in the Chat / right click the Player Name in the Chat and Report inappropriate language. There should be a Time Stamp like 10 Minutes before and 10 Minutes after the Report where the Chat of the Reported Player gets send automaticly with the Report. So there will be no confusing, no missunderstanding, no false accusations.

    3 easy Clicks for the most Stuff. There is no need for a long Text Message to the GM's. Just a simple click and everything else takes it's way. Market Board Bots are another thing but that needs more Work and we all know how often they get banned .... so wasted time

    For all 3 Reports should be a simple Warning, which the Player has to click away. That Warning could be a simple Text : False Reporting gets punished. Are you sure you want to Report this? If a Player gets cought with a false Report he should get a 12-24 hour Account Bann. That will prevent from false Reports and dumb Karen dessisions.
    agreed. +1

    except.. simple warnings do little. if simple warnings worked then being told "dont do this" would work all the time, we know it doesnt. for 1 and 2, should be allowed to change it before you can click out of it. 3 is a bit more of something that needsa bit more input from the reporter and reportee.

    regardless of how its viewed or implemented, the system needs to be introduced to the 21st century
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