MSQ Capstone Fights - iLvl requirement set too high & fights skip content as a result

[Saraide]

Like I said, I dunno. I don't think anyone does as we have no way of knowing how many new players are going through the MSQ. I do know the last couple alliance raids have been a CT raid for me and I have noticed someone popping in naked in all of those runs.

Edit: At the same time I haven't really been paying attention to the message about a new player either, so my muses are just that.

You will of course see people reequipping gear there occasionally (you cant see them anywhere else naturally) but that isnt nearly enough prove that this run was caused by an ilvl cheeser. MSQ isnt even the only draw to CT aswell.

[Deceptus]

- Encounters should be capped at the patch-relevant Item Level. E.g., Thordan:190 Shinryu:320, Hades:450.
- The quest for the Loathsome Memories of the Dying should be granted from all Alliance raids. Arguably, I would remove the 1:1 outright from Crystal Tower, and rework it so that they are only granted from Castrum and Critical Engagements - Although I would balance this out with a daily repeatable quest which awards 5-7 upon doing Alliance Raids roulette.
- Personally, I would also rework the minimum Item level requirement so that it scales based on your level, rather than based on a fixed-set 70 (Minimum for Labyrinth and Syrcus) - e.g., if you are level 71 then I think the minimum item level requirement should be 370.

I would definitely run Alliance roulette if it awarded 5-7 Loathesomes. Right now I don't touch it and just queue straight up for one of the CT raids a day because I have absolutely zero use for any of the other ones.

So if you get a CT raid, and no newbie bonus, I'm queuing for it and pulling 23 other people into it. Sorry. Blame the system, CBU3 for making a bad system, not me.

[VelKallor]

Continue to mald about raiders, Vel. The seethe about hard content doesn't make you look envious at all

That you and 17 others think that anyone is "envious" of pixels on a computer screen says that some of you need to go outside a lot more often.

[SillyCrow]

Delay the end of the fight by keeping the boss at 1 HP, then have it die when the dialogue is exhausted.

[Melorie]

Delay the end of the fight by keeping the boss at 1 HP, then have it die when the dialogue is exhausted.

That... still doesn't solve the problem? It still hinders the experience. It is so much easier to simply let it remain as it was designed.

[SaltyDaddy]

Hell nah. As somebody who has seen a lot of shit in normal trials via mentor roulette (Do you know that the first 2 trials of the expansions dont even have min ilvl?) and ammount of wipes on Titania or Mothercrystal NORMAL, because people have gear 2 expansions bellow the content and will not make DPS check (Yes, its true! Seen it more times that I would like to comfirm) is sad.

People dont care if Ravana dies little bit faster. ShB+ trials you usually get people unskilled enough to not skip mechs anyway. Wouldnt change system for rare ocassions where you actually get 7 people who knows their rotation.

And if they would do it, do it only for trials. Hell nah for dungeons or aliance raids. I would just quit every CT I got and took penalty, because that fight is dumb even on min ilvl (You skip mechanics even on min ilvl anyway, but its a boring slog...).

Also, one small thing. If you play with NPCs, you are 100% not gonna go over DPS of that content. And you also get lines of those NPCs. Reason to promote it more :P

At the very least it's a good middle ground between "I just want to get through this without having to memorize an entire fight" and "I don't want to just steamroll this fight without the slightest bit of challenge"

Tell me a single challenging dungeon on minilvl. Even on minilvl its steamroll. Boss just takes longer to kill, but doesnt have more mechs to see than with max ilvl. You are seeking challenge where is none to be found.

I would definitely run Alliance roulette if it awarded 5-7 Loathesomes. Right now I don't touch it and just queue straight up for one of the CT raids a day because I have absolutely zero use for any of the other ones.

So if you get a CT raid, and no newbie bonus, I'm queuing for it and pulling 23 other people into it. Sorry. Blame the system, CBU3 for making a bad system, not me.

Euraka and Bozja is the type of content that wants you to socialise and find groups of people to beat content with. You get 5 memories from Castrum in lower Bozja. Sorry that you are incapable of making a group of people to do castrum with like the rest, who are still humans.

[Saraide]

That you and 17 others think that anyone is "envious" of pixels on a computer screen says that some of you need to go outside a lot more often.

You're not gonna beat the envy allegations with posts like that lol.

[ACE135]

Lower the maximum ilvl people can join at so the fight can play out a bit more naturally. - turning an MSQ boss into a brick wall that they have to do again..and again...and again...

There is a very good reason why the number of people who want to be closet masochist with min ilevel and no echo is very, VERY small

All you will do is put new players off.

MSQ is story content, meant to be easy, meant to be clearable, it isnt savage, or extreme, or uitimate.

NO.

The fights themself are part of the story, too. And a story where fighting an 'epic' boss at the climax is just a tiny fraction of what it was meant to be is a not so good story.

As others have said, the bosses are already designed for the story mode to 'honor' them with a proper fight.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Delay the end of the fight by keeping the boss at 1 HP, then have it die when the dialogue is exhausted.

So, like Lahabrea at the end of the original Praetorium? That wasn't much of a solution.

[VelKallor]

You're not gonna beat the envy allegations with posts like that lol.

Mate: word of advice? If you play " to be envied" or if you play OUT of envy? You need a BIG perspective check. One does not play any video game to "show off" how much gear you have..we had that back in WOW, with players "hard parking" to show off how leet they were, so people would ooh and ahhh at their "epic armour"

Which led me to ask one of these...people..if they were wearing the armour and weps...or if the armour and weps were wearing THEM. If you raid to be no more than a glorified clothes horse..then thats a reality check for you. I dont "envy" anyone in a video game, nor do i really CARE.

I could if I choose, pick up a savage static, ive been invited at least twice, so no, Saraide, there is no "envy" of any kind...I, like many others, are way past that kind of childish behaviour. My measure of a person is more on the lines of not what they wear, or what achievements or content they have done..I measure people on who they are. How they treat others.

You might want to consider that...mmmkay?