Can something be done about alliance raids?

[Doozer]

I've been trying to get aiming pants from Paradigm's Breach and the problem isn't even just drop rate or competition. I just can't get in. No matter what time of day it takes minimum 2 hours to get in if at all (one day I foolishly queued for 7 hours and never got in).

I know people have it unlocked. But I know no one is available to do it because they're all going to CT. Roulettes are supposed to be to help fill slots, but there is never 23 other people available to do it. This is not a system working as intended.

And no, Crystal Tower being required for MSQ is not what stops Dun Scaith and higher from coming up in the roulette.

Either SE has to change something or people need to change their attitudes about what a roulette is for.

Flame me for this all you want I guess.

[Ath192]

I've been trying to get aiming pants from Paradigm's Breach and the problem isn't even just drop rate or competition. I just can't get in. No matter what time of day it takes minimum 2 hours to get in if at all (one day I foolishly queued for 7 hours and never got in).

I know people have it unlocked. But I know no one is available to do it because they're all going to CT. Roulettes are supposed to be to help fill slots, but there is never 23 other people available to do it. This is not a system working as intended.

And no, Crystal Tower being required for MSQ is not what stops Dun Scaith and higher from coming up in the roulette.

Either SE has to change something or people need to change their attitudes about what a roulette is for.

Flame me for this all you want I guess.

Once your character has cleared an alliance raid they should be on the roulette for it regardless of they de-equip their gear so long as they are the appropriate level. In other words cheesing just wouldn’t work because you can’t de level in the game.

Also, if you drop out, the rewards for that day are forfeited on that drop. If you have an unforeseen emergency that required you to drop out it’s NBD to lose a few tomestones and try again the next day.

There. Problem solved.

[Seraphor]

I agree that being able to 'cheese' the roulette by unequiping gear shouldn't be possible... however, it really wouldn't change much.

Alliance Roulette is one of the good job levelling roulettes, it gives decent EXP, so players are likely to run it on their lower level jobs. Nearly every time I've ended up in a CT raid and bothered to check the other players, even if there's someone suddenly gaining more max HP... there's almost always a player who is legitimately under level 60. That means the CT raid would have been seeded anyway.
CT will always be grossly favoured, It's just a fact of level distribution.

I'm sure ilvl cheesing has an effect, but it's not the only or even the biggest factor. As an informed guess, I would estimate that currently Alliance Roulette distributions are something like:
75% CT - 10% Mhach - 10% Ivalice - 2% Nier - 3% Myths (Ivalice and Myths gaining a bit more coverage due to Ivalice's requirement for Bozja and Myths being the current one)

Well even if you could prevent abuse of ilvl changing, it would likely only change it to something like:
60% CT - 12% Mhach - 15% Ivalice - 5% Nier - 8% Myths

The real way to change this would be to not only restrict queuing to your highest available ilvl, but to also have Alliance Roulette be the best source of end game tomestones, on par with Expert Roulette. This would get people queuing for it on their level 90 jobs, instead of their level 50 jobs.

[ASkellington]

There's a lot of things keeping Paradigm from coming up:

1. Its a lv80 Alliance Raid and the final one in the series IIRC. Unless someone has the previous 2 done and this one also unlocked they won't get it. Which leads to
2. outside of CT, none of the other Alliance Raids are mandatory. So if you want to never unlock them, you can (until CT was required in 5.3 you could actually do the opposite but I digress). For instance I have one character who has yet to unlock Void Ark but has the others (save for the current tier because they haven't gotten there in MSQ).
   
3. If someone is leveling and the character isn't 80+ they won't get it in roulette.
   
4. People don't queue for Alliance Raids. (I stopped after getting CT too much).
   
5. Free trial players can only get up to HW. So they don't even have access to do it at all.
   
6. Ilvl cheese. Its not as big as the previous factors but it is one.

And all it takes is for ONE PERSON out of 24 to apply to one of them, if not multiple.

All that said, I've been able to get into Yorha Raids fine on my alts. What times are you queueing? That may make the above worse.

[Rufalus]

Add a weekly repeatable quest that asks you to clear one lv60 alliance raid, one lv70 alliance raid and one lv80 alliance raid. The reward is something substantial and also counts towards achievements where clearing this weekly quest 10, 50 and 100 times gives additional rewards culminating in a mount.

[Seraphor]

Add a weekly repeatable quest that asks you to clear one lv60 alliance raid, one lv70 alliance raid and one lv80 alliance raid. The reward is something substantial and also counts towards achievements where clearing this weekly quest 10, 50 and 100 times gives additional rewards culminating in a mount.

I mean, this is likely going to be part of the Relic weapon grind anyway, which is only a few weeks away.
Plus there's always Moogle tomestones.

[GTK0HLK]

At most it'll do is make things work exactly as intended.

As some say, it may not remove most instances of CT, as free trial accounts will get you CT or VA.

But I'm one for removing all instances of gaming the roulette.
Every percentage counts..,

if they ever update the way it works that is, then we'll see how it is then. (since it's basically system support..,)

Every factor that doesn't help the system work as intended will make things skewed outside the expected.(whether you like it or not, like with the AR Gear drop topic-with it's different variables making all drops hard to collect/fullest if current content)

One can only hope that as the game progresses and content becomes more mandatory or more content in general, it'll dilute CT back to previous amounts.
[Though if old ARs will get referenced storywise/plotpoint in the MSQ as mandatory is unknown.., and Myths of the Realm doesn't seem to lean towards mandatory to me atm.]

[Dyvid]

I've been trying to get aiming pants from Paradigm's Breach and the problem isn't even just drop rate or competition. I just can't get in. No matter what time of day it takes minimum 2 hours to get in if at all (one day I foolishly queued for 7 hours and never got in).

I know people have it unlocked. But I know no one is available to do it because they're all going to CT. Roulettes are supposed to be to help fill slots, but there is never 23 other people available to do it. This is not a system working as intended.

And no, Crystal Tower being required for MSQ is not what stops Dun Scaith and higher from coming up in the roulette.

Either SE has to change something or people need to change their attitudes about what a roulette is for.

Flame me for this all you want I guess.

CT is the problem because it's to easy to run, to easy to bypass the system to only get CT in roulette. They need to just make it a 4/8-man Duty Support/MSQ roulette run.

Only other option I see is tuning it to make it a challenge so people stop trying to get the easy win.

[BRVV]

They could add the CT raids to MSQ roulette and remove them from Alliance roulette

[Doozer]

What times are you queueing? That may make the above worse.

The usual variables like time of day, role, etc. don't seem to make a difference. One time it was 2am and I got in in 5 minutes (the only time it was ever under an hour), and other times I can queue at primetime and it takes over 2 hours. I can pair with a healer or go by myself as BRD/DNC at any time of day and it still takes forever. The problem is no one is available, despite so many people having all jobs at 90 and regularly doing roulettes, but purposefully forcing CT which is the problem. Literally anything that isn't CT takes forever to get into.