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  1. #21
    Player
    Nikoto's Avatar
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    Niko'to Seleuca
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 100
    I main GNB in PvE but sadly in PvP it’s just not game changing compared to the other tanks. You have a choice to either do decent damage but be weak or do wet noodle damage and be very tough (not as paladin but still decent to hold a point on your own for a bit or prevent captures in Frontline).

    I just went with Warrior in the end for PvP (I just play frontlines these days). The utility with the AoE stun that also works as gap closer, the grip/pull… it just doesn’t compare. GNB has one of the worst LBs as it can be completely denied with a simple stun or well placed cc. Wish they improved it.[/QUOTE]

    It's crazy fun, give it another go. I would never play any of the other tanks over it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    GNB is crazy fun. I just wish junction worked differently.
    Same, it's great but you should be able to junction allies too.

    Quote Originally Posted by True-to-Caesar View Post
    You mean they have a Goldshire somewhere ?
    Pretty sure Balmung has that.
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    Give me more Keeper of the Moon rep!

  2. #22
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by True-to-Caesar View Post
    Same as the stun : 2s, not worth a note as it’s a gcd.
    That’s why I mentioned root/snare (proper ones), as it’s sorely lacking with a melee job that has its main abilities have casts.
    Then your problem is the cast times with SAM, not crowd control abilities. I don't know many that aren't on the GCD (and fortunately).

    Personally when I play ranged I don't find SAM the most threatening of all melees (MNK is by far), but I still know that if the player on the other end is competent enough they'll be an annoyance, because unlike other melees they can burst a lot of your HP immediately, a bit like DRG, but unlike DRG, they can actually crowd control you a bit to continue peeling you, with 2 CCs. If my purify is down, or guard down but still some MP left, I don't care about a DRG trying to chase me down if I have enough resources to soak their burst, but I will care about a SAM.

    Quote Originally Posted by True-to-Caesar View Post
    I main GNB in PvE but sadly in PvP it’s just not game changing compared to the other tanks. You have a choice to either do decent damage but be weak or do wet noodle damage and be very tough (not as paladin but still decent to hold a point on your own for a bit or prevent captures in Frontline).

    I just went with Warrior in the end for PvP (I just play frontlines these days). The utility with the AoE stun that also works as gap closer, the grip/pull… it just doesn’t compare. GNB has one of the worst LBs as it can be completely denied with a simple stun or well placed cc. Wish they improved it.
    Obviously GNB isn't great in FLs because a tank with no tools for crowd control of the sort is kinda useless. Maybe the LB can help a little on big enemy blobs, I don't know.

    I find GNB in the CC mode actually pretty solid, even though you can't always adjust to the role you want depending on the enemy team comp (it would be a certain advantage otherwise in regards to the matchmaker system, although i wouldn't mind too much), it's still a job that has the option to do so. I actually find the job more threatening for applying pressure to opponents than any other tank. PLD is the one hitting like a wet noodle, WAR only has very good pressure under LB, and DRK will suicide itself if it tries doing it outside of LB and their salted earth. Again, when I play ranged, I actually get seriously pressured by GNB players that essentially play like a melee DPS, even in tank mode. They have so much health (on top of their endless stacks of barriers in tank mode) that you just need to shake them off you else they'll eventually get you. Obviously they don't have cc as a counterpart, but that's the whole deal, else they would just be better than all the other tanks. It's a trade off.

    The tank mode actually deals good damage and pressure, what the DPS mode brings is a pretty nasty burst since Blasting Zone and Continuation are actually OGCD, which is more than most melees can say about their kits but DRG.
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  3. #23
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    Towa-Musa's Avatar
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    Towa Musa
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by True-to-Caesar View Post
    You mean they have a Goldshire somewhere ?
    probably! lmao

    Can confirm that mateus and balmung has it (balmung has it much worse though)
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  4. #24
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    Elfidan's Avatar
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    Elfidan Gadfor
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    i think i'll pass, i hear primal is the closest thing to a WoW server. no offense of course.
    Nah, It's mostly just full of old blood and serious people. As to the Goldshire comments the quicksand on Balmung is absolutely Moonguard Goldshire complete with sticky floors (somehow...). But you never know where you will find ERP going on anywhere in this game. I went to hermit's hovel for a quest a few months back and walked in on some unsavory behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    If there was a downvote button I'd be pressing it.

  5. #25
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    Nubrication's Avatar
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    Virtus Pendragon
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Elfidan View Post
    Nah, It's mostly just full of old blood and serious people. As to the Goldshire comments the quicksand on Balmung is absolutely Moonguard Goldshire complete with sticky floors (somehow...). But you never know where you will find ERP going on anywhere in this game. I went to hermit's hovel for a quest a few months back and walked in on some unsavory behavior.
    I agree. I'm in Aether but Primal definitely has the best PVPers. The quality of casual CC games are much higher there because people at the bare minimum generally know how to play their class and what guard, recuperate and elixir are. You don't have to deal with as much people who don't know what an LB is, or what sprint is.
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