DPS Rank

[Chardrizard]

1-3. BLM-MNK-DRG are somewhat balanced now, what sets them apart is now player skill in pushing buttons and gears.
4. WAR
5. BRD
6. WHM, their 4 spells can rotate infinitely as long as you have MP.
7. PLD

[UmJammerSully]

1-3. BLM-MNK-DRG are somewhat balanced now, what sets them apart is now player skill in pushing buttons and gears.
4. WAR
5. BRD
6. WHM, their 4 spells can rotate infinitely as long as you have MP.
7. PLD

This is a lot more accurate, WHM's could easily out-damage PLD's if they wanted to, but that's not what they are there for.

I think WAR and BRD are pretty comparable when it comes to damage too.

4. BRD- "LightShot" nerf hurt them

lol, it really didn't. Barely even noticeable.

[Dzian]

lol, it really didn't. Barely even noticeable.

It's about 30% less damage than it was before the hotfix. thats very noticable.

I could average 85-90 dps quite easily on moogle. hitting ~120 on the rarity of a perfect fight. (no maximogs etc)
Lucky to hit 55-60 now. Admittedly I spend most of my time tanking it these days but it's still a huge impact.

Also noticable with coincutter, Ifrit (although its harded to judge because of the randomness of eruptions) and ogre in dh.
there was another post somewhere where people had said the more damage you could put out the more noticable the hotfix was. if you simply went light shot > ws1 >ws2 >ws3 then the hot fix has next to no impact on your damage.

if you went ls > ws1 > ls > ws2 > ls >ws3 > ls then it easily knocks off 25-30% of your dps.

wouldn't have minded the light shot change if they'd upped our skill damage to compensate.

[SwordCoheir]

It's about 30% less damage than it was before the hotfix. thats very noticable.

You should be able to compensate most of the time by chasing your WS's with JA, spells, or whatever in those instances Light Shot is down to minimize the impact of the hotfix by a much greater margin.

Might work....

Forget about what Mosshorn does

Mosshorn is a combination of adds and frontal knockbacks.


In general though I don't think there's any one particular fight that doesn't benefit one particular job over another to really get an accurate measurement between the jobs.

[Otaku]

1-3. BLM-MNK-DRG are somewhat balanced now, what sets them apart is now player skill in pushing buttons and gears.
4. WAR
5. BRD
6. WHM, their 4 spells can rotate infinitely as long as you have MP.
7. PLD

You don't put any reason behind your list, I've seen BRD get 90~100dps, never seen a WAR do close to that

[Chardrizard]

You don't put any reason behind your list, I've seen BRD get 90~100dps, never seen a WAR do close to that

Probably bc u told the WAR to tank. Try to make them solely DPS on misser.

[Nero]

Probably bc u told the WAR to tank. Try to make them solely DPS on misser.

1. ^ This
2. DPS'ing in full AF ? <_<

[Renen]

You don't put any reason behind your list, I've seen BRD get 90~100dps, never seen a WAR do close to that

WHere does one even get a DPS meter?

[AmyNeudaiz]

1-3. BLM-MNK-DRG are somewhat balanced now, what sets them apart is now player skill in pushing buttons and gears.
4. WAR
5. BRD
6. WHM, their 4 spells can rotate infinitely as long as you have MP.
7. PLD

This is the most accurate list. I Whm plenty and I War plenty. Brd isn't as strong as War. I've never seen a Brd take hate from me on War and Whm is stronger than Pld seeing as I can not only take hate, but keep it from any Pld even while they use vokes (even though I use AF gear for Whm) by simply using clerics stance.

[Otaku]

This is the most accurate list. I Whm plenty and I War plenty. Brd isn't as strong as War. I've never seen a Brd take hate from me on War and Whm is stronger than Pld seeing as I can not only take hate, but keep it from any Pld even while they use vokes (even though I use AF gear for Whm) by simply using clerics stance.

Holding hate isn't the question, during Moogle hate pops between the BRD's/WHM's during 1st phase rather then the tank when everyone is in DPS mode, heck I hold hate as WHM on the GLD moogle most of the time in the 1st phase.
It might be possible for a WAR to out DPS a BRD, just in my experience in DPS gear on WAR I'm lucky to break 70 and most of my BRD friends break 80 on a regular basis.