DPS Rank

[Otaku]

A friend and I were having a discussion yesterday about where each job would rank in a DPS list, while we agreed on MNK/BLM topping the list with DRG quickly catching up it was the other 4 jobs we had a harder time placing.
So here's the idea, post your list with a little reasoning behind why each job is where.
For the sake of the list each job would be in full DPS gear and be stated for DPS.
This is for single target DPS so AOE isn't gonna matter.

1. BLM- the "Glass Canon", no combo position restrictions, only has to deal with MP and not that big of a deal
2. MNK- could beat BLM depending on the situation, MNK has to use position which is its only downfall imo
3. DRG- only slightly behind the top 2, since the "ACC fix" patch I've seen DRG put out some killer numbers, has to deal with position just like MNK
4. BRD- "LightShot" nerf hurt them, still decent DPS just not Top3 anymore
5. WAR- was gonna put PLD here but my friend reminded me that WAR has Berserk or Rampage which would increase DPS, still think they are low DPS now
6. PLD- can put out decent numbers if stated/geared STR/MND but long CD on Spirits Within is holding it back imo
7. WHM- if this was CNJ it might be higher, only 4 spells and long CD's on the 2 combos hold it back, dmg from spells is still nice on certain mobs

[Chardrizard]

1-3. BLM-MNK-DRG are somewhat balanced now, what sets them apart is now player skill in pushing buttons and gears.
4. WAR
5. BRD
6. WHM, their 4 spells can rotate infinitely as long as you have MP.
7. PLD

[UmJammerSully]

1-3. BLM-MNK-DRG are somewhat balanced now, what sets them apart is now player skill in pushing buttons and gears.
4. WAR
5. BRD
6. WHM, their 4 spells can rotate infinitely as long as you have MP.
7. PLD

This is a lot more accurate, WHM's could easily out-damage PLD's if they wanted to, but that's not what they are there for.

I think WAR and BRD are pretty comparable when it comes to damage too.

4. BRD- "LightShot" nerf hurt them

lol, it really didn't. Barely even noticeable.

[Otaku]

1-3. BLM-MNK-DRG are somewhat balanced now, what sets them apart is now player skill in pushing buttons and gears.
4. WAR
5. BRD
6. WHM, their 4 spells can rotate infinitely as long as you have MP.
7. PLD

You don't put any reason behind your list, I've seen BRD get 90~100dps, never seen a WAR do close to that

[fusional]

depends on the encounter.

[Enfarious]

BLM - Very few limits on it's dmg output and easily the highest numbers/hit of all of them with few exceptions, in specific fights.

MNK/DRG - With the right fists up and against single targets MNK wins alot of the time but power surge and gear can bring a DRG up to and in some fights easily surpass MNK.

WAR/BRD/CNJ/PLD - All of them can post numbers that are decent.


To say a little more:
BLM doesn't need much said. It demolishes things, and because of the "Any job can solo even matches" it can still take a hit or 3 w/o dying outright.

WHM is really hard to slot since so often it's not doing much, if any, dmg in "fights that count". In the few that I have seen them as pure DPS(a couple of safety run Ifrits while teaching newer players, usually 5~6 ppl who know the fight well and 2~3 new) they often manage top 3/4 if they aren't pushed into healer mode, mostly because they can freely cast/combo like a BLM and with little planning can effectively spam stone > stonera > aero > aerora > stone > aero > stone > stonera > aero > aerora blah blah blah w/o stopping.

MNK/DRG can though not nearly as easily as BLM out do the others but in most of the fights "where it counts" you find yourself breaking combos or having them broken which nerfs your DPS.

WAR w/ berserk up and DPS geared can post some damn fine numbers, w/ rampage up they drop off alot now steel cyclone+rampage is still the best way to wade knee deep in masses of mobs while posting sick numbers, but that's not really relevant to many "boss" fights.

PLD again geared for DPS post surprising numbers though long recasts can hurt if your not using all combos, if you are using them all PLD really isn't bad, course you have to move around which rarely makes melees happy, but if your in a ranged heavy party it's fine.

BRD still posts decent numbers the "nerf" to light shot wasn't exactly devastating, and with no position limitations beyond distance combos are still easier to hit than on melees.

[Chardrizard]

You don't put any reason behind your list, I've seen BRD get 90~100dps, never seen a WAR do close to that

Probably bc u told the WAR to tank. Try to make them solely DPS on misser.

[Dzian]

lol, it really didn't. Barely even noticeable.

It's about 30% less damage than it was before the hotfix. thats very noticable.

I could average 85-90 dps quite easily on moogle. hitting ~120 on the rarity of a perfect fight. (no maximogs etc)
Lucky to hit 55-60 now. Admittedly I spend most of my time tanking it these days but it's still a huge impact.

Also noticable with coincutter, Ifrit (although its harded to judge because of the randomness of eruptions) and ogre in dh.
there was another post somewhere where people had said the more damage you could put out the more noticable the hotfix was. if you simply went light shot > ws1 >ws2 >ws3 then the hot fix has next to no impact on your damage.

if you went ls > ws1 > ls > ws2 > ls >ws3 > ls then it easily knocks off 25-30% of your dps.

wouldn't have minded the light shot change if they'd upped our skill damage to compensate.

[AmyNeudaiz]

1-3. BLM-MNK-DRG are somewhat balanced now, what sets them apart is now player skill in pushing buttons and gears.
4. WAR
5. BRD
6. WHM, their 4 spells can rotate infinitely as long as you have MP.
7. PLD

This is the most accurate list. I Whm plenty and I War plenty. Brd isn't as strong as War. I've never seen a Brd take hate from me on War and Whm is stronger than Pld seeing as I can not only take hate, but keep it from any Pld even while they use vokes (even though I use AF gear for Whm) by simply using clerics stance.

[Otaku]

This is the most accurate list. I Whm plenty and I War plenty. Brd isn't as strong as War. I've never seen a Brd take hate from me on War and Whm is stronger than Pld seeing as I can not only take hate, but keep it from any Pld even while they use vokes (even though I use AF gear for Whm) by simply using clerics stance.

Holding hate isn't the question, during Moogle hate pops between the BRD's/WHM's during 1st phase rather then the tank when everyone is in DPS mode, heck I hold hate as WHM on the GLD moogle most of the time in the 1st phase.
It might be possible for a WAR to out DPS a BRD, just in my experience in DPS gear on WAR I'm lucky to break 70 and most of my BRD friends break 80 on a regular basis.