Is it time for yoshi to step down from ff14?

[SannaR]

People like to Tell Themselves that YoshiP should go away and we need a New Guy.....
But like, how do we know that somebody else wouldn't be Worse then YoshiP?

Dislike the guy all you want, but remember that he saved the game from where it was previously, plus the game is still doing great despite. And from what I hear, it is the Biggest Money Maker for SE Right Now.
You want that to go away for...what exactly? What is another new guy going to do better then YoshiP?

It wouldn't even be one person. You get rid of Yoshida you have two spots to fill. So would two new people do a better job than Yoshida or do worse? Some here forget that Yoshida holds two rolls. Heck he's even said he'd welcome someone to take over one of those rolls. That he knows it's not normal for someone to hold both the producer and director role for a game.

[Missus]

Please no. Absolutely not. Take a look at the general landscape of gaming these days. FFXIV has flaws, but the community is lucky to have Yoshi-P.

[Mcg55ss]

l"What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker" (on page 807) and "Was any of the 6.3 content worth waiting 4 months for?" (on page 43).

To your 1st one the OP had over 100 like 2 comments down there is a comment "if everyone who like the story made a thread" with over 300 likes. So basically majority liked the story I personally enjoyed it thoroughly. You might not get it's just like a movie or anime some might love it some might not receive it as positive.

On your 2nd post the 6.3 while maybe not as packed as you would prefer until you get a selfie patch as a major content drop....don't even complain about having to wait for a lackluster patch

[Rufalus]

Yoshida earned getting to do whatever he wants. Personally though I think it would be really interesting for FFXIV to have a new vision from new leadership while Yoshida focuses on whatever is next, be it a next-gen MMO or another single-player FF like XVI. But if he wants to spend the rest of his career on XIV it will happen, I just hope he doesn't keep the same damn content patterns for its entire lifetime.

[Zebraoracle]

I really dislike the idea that because YoshiP saved 14 during 1.0 that he's this infallible being that is beyond criticism that a lot of people seem to have about him. At the risk of sounding like certain individuals, I do think YoshiP is a bit out of touch with his playerbase. As someone else said, look at his disconnect with the healer role, or how he shocked pikachu face'd on April 1st's hrothgar hair reveal. I don't think he's running the game into the ground by any means, but there are unfortunately issues.

I think the guy did a great and wonderful job of saving 14. I also think he's working with severe mismanagement issues because Square Enix while at the same time having to juggle a lot (FF16). The guy has a lot on his plate and like any normal person, it's probably running him ragged.

I don't think he should be replaced, but I do think it'd be in 14's best interest (and maybe his own?) for him to be relegated to one game and for Square to actually freaking listen to what he needs for 14 if that's the one that's chosen (proper funding for one). Personally, I'd rather have him on 14 since he genuinely cares about the game, even if some of the things he does and says is... highly disagreeable.

Yoshida earned getting to do whatever he wants.

This is a very dangerous mindset to have for game developers oh my word.

[ZephyrMenodora]

I really dislike the idea that because YoshiP saved 14 during 1.0 that he's this infallible being that is beyond criticism that a lot of people seem to have about him. At the risk of sounding like certain individuals, I do think YoshiP is a bit out of touch with his playerbase. As someone else said, look at his disconnect with the healer role, or how he shocked pikachu face'd on April 1st's hrothgar hair reveal. I don't think he's running the game into the ground by any means, but there are unfortunately issues.

I think the guy did a great and wonderful job of saving 14. I also think he's working with severe mismanagement issues because Square Enix while at the same time having to juggle a lot (FF16). The guy has a lot on his plate and like any normal person, it's probably running him ragged.

I don't think he should be replaced, but I do think it'd be in 14's best interest (and maybe his own?) for him to be relegated to one game and for Square to actually freaking listen to what he needs for 14 if that's the one that's chosen (proper funding for one).




This is a very dangerous mindset to have for game developers oh my word.

Except despite all the complaining here, the "playerbase" keeps growing with every expansion. So how out of touch is he?

[Zebraoracle]

Except despite all the complaining here, the "playerbase" keeps growing with every expansion. So how out of touch is he?

Those two things aren't mutually exclusive though? Overall the game is good, hence why the playerbase keeps growing. But he can still be a bit out of touch regarding certain aspects of the game, you know, the parts of the game that ARE suffering.

[Midareyukki]

Except despite all the complaining here, the "playerbase" keeps growing with every expansion. So how out of touch is he?

The game has been growing and there's been a lot of good things said about it. That said, there's also quite a lot that's been neglected in the past and has since been festering. There are topics that Square Enix didn't even address until it was too late. Responses have been tone-deaf, not realizing that people had been complaining for a while and end up giving answers that they wouldn't have given had they been paying attention.

For me and a lot of Hrothgar players, nothing embodies it more than April 1st. Him going dork-faced at the reaction the community gave was stupid. Anyone would have realized it was coming, because Hrothgars, who didn't have a single update in 3 years, had been asking for attention all the while. Meanwhile, communication was heavily centered around Viera, mentions of updates were focused around making stuff for Viera, and Hrothgar were only ever mentioned in conjunction with Viera rather than addressing complaints Hrothgar players themselves were giving. Stuff that Viera players didn't have to deal with (their awkward posture and animations, the glamours that they couldn't use which are a different list than Viera, and even the fact that to change hairstyle we needed to pay a fantasia).

Others will point to different scenarios, such as him dismissing the lore, him telling Healers to play Ultimates if they wanted a bigger challenge...

Those are two separate realities: the game is growing while there is stuff being awkwardly addressed about the game.

And even if the game is growing... so what? Just because people admit Yoshida is lacking in touch with the game's fanbase, it doesn't mean that people inherently believe the game sucks and isn't growing. One statement doesn't mean the other. I can be fine with the game and support Yoshida while still saying "You're out of touch, please be more mindful".

I personally don't think he should leave or be replaced. Have some of his responsabilites be delegated to someone else? Possibly. But gone entirely? Absolutely not. And it's not just because of 1.0, it's because Yoshida just isn't as bad as people claim he is. Square Enix has far, far worse. Other game companies have far, far worse. Yoshida might do things we disagree with and have some stuff we'd like rectified, but he's certainly not as bad as his colleagues in other Creative Business Divisions...
But he should at least strive to do better than what he's been doing the past year or so. Because the latest appearances have left much to be desired.

[ZephyrMenodora]

The game has been growing and there's been a lot of good things said about it. That said, there's also quite a lot that's been neglected in the past and has since been festering. There are topics that Square Enix didn't even address until it was too late. Responses have been tone-deaf, not realizing that people had been complaining for a while and end up giving answers that they wouldn't have given had they been paying attention.

For me and a lot of Hrothgar players, nothing embodies it more than April 1st. Him going dork-faced at the reaction the community gave was stupid. Anyone would have realized it was coming, because Hrothgars, who didn't have a single update in 3 years, had been asking for attention all the while. Meanwhile, communication was heavily centered around Viera, mentions of updates were focused around making stuff for Viera, and Hrothgar were only ever mentioned in conjunction with Viera rather than addressing complaints Hrothgar players themselves were giving. Stuff that Viera players didn't have to deal with (their awkward posture and animations, the glamours that they couldn't use which are a different list than Viera, and even the fact that to change hairstyle we needed to pay a fantasia).

Others will point to different scenarios, such as him dismissing the lore, him telling Healers to play Ultimates if they wanted a bigger challenge...

Those are two separate realities: the game is growing while there is stuff being awkwardly addressed about the game.

And even if the game is growing... so what? Just because people admit Yoshida is lacking in touch with the game's fanbase, it doesn't mean that people inherently believe the game sucks and isn't growing. One statement doesn't mean the other. I can be fine with the game and support Yoshida while still saying "You're out of touch, please be more mindful".

I personally don't think he should leave or be replaced. Have some of his responsabilites be delegated to someone else? Possibly. But gone entirely? Absolutely not. And it's not just because of 1.0, it's because Yoshida just isn't as bad as people claim he is. Square Enix has far, far worse. Other game companies have far, far worse. Yoshida might do things we disagree with and have some stuff we'd like rectified, but he's certainly not as bad as his colleagues in other Creative Business Divisions...
But he should at least strive to do better than what he's been doing the past year or so. Because the latest appearances have left much to be desired.

I mean, every MMO game I've ever played had complaints about this or that, things players view as "tone-death". Every mmo has people on forums saying the devs aren't in touch with the community or doesn't listen to it. Name me one that meets with universal praise and good-will? Most are hemorrhaging players and their peak popularity is behind them.

[Vrankyl]

This right here? This is how you get stuck with Tanaka again or Nomura. Trust me. You don't want that. Yoshi P may make mistakes and at times not have an agreeing idea with the playerbase but uh... as others have said he is the sole reason that Square Enix is still even around.

as the team is 100% developers.-_-

This mindset is how WoW ended up with Ion.