Is it time for yoshi to step down from ff14?

[DPZ2]

Every other games have flopped.

Prove that statement. Please. Use real numbers.

A game that cost 1 billion yen to make, and has 2 billion yen in sales, while another game with a similar cost had 12 billion yen in sales, is not a "flop", except to the hype machine. A game that cost 1 billion yen to make and has 800 million yen in sales is a "flop".

Any game introduced at the same time as the FF7 remake, or the next Nier game, is not a flop if it makes money.

I really get tired of people believing that FFXIV is the only money-making game that Square Enix produces. It is, by far, the most recognizable of the games produced, but it is not solely responsible for the company's profits.

The Digital Entertainment sector of Square Enix lists about 185 billion yen for net sales for FY2023/3 Q1 ‐ Q3 (reported on 3 February). The entire MMORPG section had just under 22% of that total in net sales.

[LianaThorne]

Prove that statement. Please. Use real numbers.

A game that cost 1 billion yen to make, and has 2 billion yen in sales, while another game with a similar cost had 12 billion yen in sales, is not a "flop", except to the hype machine. A game that cost 1 billion yen to make and has 800 million yen in sales is a "flop".

Any game introduced at the same time as the FF7 remake, or the next Nier game, is not a flop if it makes money.

I really get tired of people believing that FFXIV is the only money-making game that Square Enix produces. It is, by far, the most recognizable of the games produced, but it is not solely responsible for the company's profits.

The Digital Entertainment sector of Square Enix lists about 185 billion yen for net sales for FY2023/3 Q1 ‐ Q3 (reported on 3 February). The entire MMORPG section had just under 22% of that total in net sales.

I would think their mobile games are bringing in a pretty hefty chunk tbh.

[Vrankyl]

Prove that statement. Please. Use real numbers.

A game that cost 1 billion yen to make, and has 2 billion yen in sales, while another game with a similar cost had 12 billion yen in sales, is not a "flop", except to the hype machine. A game that cost 1 billion yen to make and has 800 million yen in sales is a "flop".

Any game introduced at the same time as the FF7 remake, or the next Nier game, is not a flop if it makes money.

I really get tired of people believing that FFXIV is the only money-making game that Square Enix produces. It is, by far, the most recognizable of the games produced, but it is not solely responsible for the company's profits.

The Digital Entertainment sector of Square Enix lists about 185 billion yen for net sales for FY2023/3 Q1 ‐ Q3 (reported on 3 February). The entire MMORPG section had just under 22% of that total in net sales.

The problem with looking just at the profit side of things is that it doesn't give the full picture. A game can be a profitable success and still be a PR flop. I'd argue that a PR flop is far more damaging than a profit flop because PR flops hurt the overall brand. Games that have a huge hype and sell well only to turn out to be terrible are extremely hard to overcome. Because not only will the people who purchased the PR flops be more hesitant to buy Square Enix games in the future, but newer gamers will too because the bad PR will be all over the place.

Let's look at the FF series in of itself in the west. FFXVI could be a huge huge success, but it will likely earn less as a result of the receptions of FFXII and FFXV. The only counter balance it has going for it is the fact that it is being made by CBUIII. Or look at Kingdom Hearts III. People were itching for it eager for it, and now many long time KH fans are horrifically burned by it. If they were to make a KH4 game you can be sure that it will see overall less attention and sales due to KH3's reception.

[Coratanni]

i know people love to think of yoshi as a god and pray to him 4 times a day but i see that he now days hurt the games progress more that he helps it. he deserves the respect for doing a good job for a long time, i say up to 5.x. now days so much of the games problems and things the game just do have is because yoshi don't like them. how many times we did hear "i did not think any one will want it" as a reason?
so if we want the game to have new and GOOD things we need a new director.
what you think?

I think your way would kill FFXIV's success.

[Meowdyj]

The problem isn't Yoshi. It's resources allocated to this game. Their main focus is on FF XVI. They don't even have enough budget for making new dungeon gear, or make it dyable. Innovation won't happen until the focus returns to FF XIV (if ever).

[NekoMataMata]

The problem isn't Yoshi. It's resources allocated to this game. Their main focus is on FF XVI. They don't even have enough budget for making new dungeon gear, or make it dyable. Innovation won't happen until the focus returns to FF XIV (if ever).

It won't. There's no reason for it to.

The people on this game have set the bar sooooooo low. The community does so much for this game in comparison to what the developers do. The community is the one that really keeps the game going.

Why should SE put more resources into the game when so many people are happy with the status quo as it is now? They get a consistent source of revenue that requires little upkeep, and what they earn from that source gets to easily be put into other places as they search for something new.

[CidHeiral]

Why should SE put more resources into the game when so many people are happy with the status quo as it is now?

Yes as we all know launching multiple new data centers and completely overhauling the graphics of thousands of assets is absolutely free.

[Stormpeaks]

Yes as we all know launching multiple new data centers and completely overhauling the graphics of thousands of assets is absolutely free.

You mean Materia, the datacenter on life support ?

Dynamis was a good addition but is mainly used for housing purposes, for actual activities most people go on the old datacenters, not all but most, because of shorter queues and more parties available.

A good start would be to remove Materia and to put those ressources somewhere else.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

You mean Materia, the datacenter on life support ?

Dynamis was a good addition but is mainly used for housing purposes, for actual activities most people go on the old datacenters, not all but most, because of shorter queues and more parties available.

A good start would be to remove Materia and to put those ressources somewhere else.

What it sounds like you are saying is DC travel was a mistake lol.

[VelKallor]

Is it time for yoshi to step down from ff14?

Absolutely not.