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    Demo census

    We have a unique opportunity to get approximate numbers on how many plots are being returned to supply by demolition resuming as of Patch 6.3.

    The 45 day period will end at approximately 1:15am PST on the 24th (will likely be a little earlier depending on when the patch maintenance on the servers was completed versus when the servers actually came back online).

    With the lottery entry period in progress until the 25th (7am PST), available plots can be counted on the 23rd then a second time on the 24th to see how many become newly available overnight. The vast majority of them will be from auto-demolition (not likely to have many players giving them up voluntarily though I know of a few looking to get their 80% refunds before transferring to non-New worlds).

    This is more for curiosity since the conditions created by demo being suspended then resuming wouldn't match what would have happened if demo had never been suspended. But it could still give us an idea of just how effective is demolition with the current competition for houses. Will it be 20% returning to the available supply as some hope, or only 2%?

    If you want to help with this census, please post the world name and the counts from both the 23rd and 24th (posts can be made with the 23rd numbers then edited later to add the numbers from the 24th).

    If you play on the EU worlds, there is no point getting numbers since demo is suspended again there due to the earthquake.

    A grand total for all available plots on your world is fine though some might want to give a more detailed breakdown by district and/or size. No point in doing it by FC/personal since the ward designations were added 4 months after demolition was suspended so the previous owner may not match the current ward type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    We have a unique opportunity to get approximate numbers on how many plots are being returned to supply by demolition resuming as of Patch 6.3.

    The 45 day period will end at approximately 1:15am PST on the 24th (will likely be a little earlier depending on when the patch maintenance on the servers was completed versus when the servers actually came back online).

    With the lottery entry period in progress until the 25th (7am PST), available plots can be counted on the 23rd then a second time on the 24th to see how many become newly available overnight. The vast majority of them will be from auto-demolition (not likely to have many players giving them up voluntarily though I know of a few looking to get their 80% refunds before transferring to non-New worlds).

    This is more for curiosity since the conditions created by demo being suspended then resuming wouldn't match what would have happened if demo had never been suspended. But it could still give us an idea of just how effective is demolition with the current competition for houses. Will it be 20% returning to the available supply as some hope, or only 2%?

    If you want to help with this census, please post the world name and the counts from both the 23rd and 24th (posts can be made with the 23rd numbers then edited later to add the numbers from the 24th).

    If you play on the EU worlds, there is no point getting numbers since demo is suspended again there due to the earthquake.

    A grand total for all available plots on your world is fine though some might want to give a more detailed breakdown by district and/or size. No point in doing it by FC/personal since the ward designations were added 4 months after demolition was suspended so the previous owner may not match the current ward type.
    I'll let you know for European worlds how it goes in a year or 2.
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    as of the 23rd: now as of the 24th

    Empyreum
    S - 58; now 114 (62 FC only)
    M - 1; now 6 (1 FC only)
    L - 0; now 2 (no FC only)

    Goblet
    S - 64; now 149 (74 FC only)
    M - 1; now 14 (2 FC only)
    L - 0; now 3 (1 FC only)

    Lavender Beds
    S - 28; now 108 (38 FC only)
    M - 0; now 8 (2 FC only)
    L - 0; now 2 (1 FC only)

    Mist
    S - 46; now 128 (55 FC only)
    M - 0; now 8 (no FC only)
    L - 1; now 4 (1 FC only)

    Shirogane
    S - 30; now 93 (35 FC only)
    M - 0; now 12 (3 FC only)
    L - 0; now 3 (no FC only)

    subtotals as of the 23
    S - 226; now 592 (264 FC only, 328 available for private)
    M - 2; now 48 (8 FC only, 40 available for private)
    L - 1; now 14 (3 FC only; 11 available for private

    Edit for summary:
    Not going to include plots from wards 25-30 in the following numbers since those wards just opened in 6.3 and nothing could be getting demo'd yet (would still be about a week away because of when the first lottery claim date was for those plots).

    In the remaining 24 wards on Coeurl:

    366 out of 4800 small plots were demolished overnight, or 7.6%

    46 out of 1680 medium plots were demolished overnight, or 2.7%

    13 out of 720 large plots were demolished overnight, or 1.8%

    425 out of 7200 total plots were demolished overnight, or 5.9%
    Quote Originally Posted by Elevin View Post
    I'll let you know for European worlds how it goes in a year or 2.
    Hopefully it won't be that long but you never know with SE.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 02-24-2023 at 10:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Hopefully it won't be that long but you never know with SE.
    There's always another tragedy around the corner. Just see how SE picks and chooses its causes.
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    I’ll let you know for Bryn. We’ve had one or two plots open up during this lotto cycle, but those were just people who left I guess.

    Also, with auto-demo commencing tomorrow, and the current bidding cycle not ending til reset on Saturday, you’ll also be able to see if anything good gets demoed that you want to wait and try for, or if you want to throw in a last minute bid on the few that are currently available. I’m holding my bid this week til I see what opens up.
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    as of the 23rd:

    Empyreum
    S - 64 (59 FC only)
    M - 0
    L - 0

    Goblet
    S - 56 (55 FC only)
    M - 0
    L - 1

    Lavender Beds
    S - 15 (11 FC only)
    M - 0
    L - 0

    Mist
    S - 47 (37 FC only)
    M - 1
    L - 0

    Shirogane
    S - 23 (20 FC only)
    M - 0
    L - 0

    subtotals as of the 23rd
    S - 205 (ours are mostly FC only at this point too)
    M - 1
    L - 1
    grand total: 207
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    SOmeone should do Balmung and MAteus too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuniko View Post
    SOmeone should do Balmung and MAteus too
    Yeah, somebody from Baldung certainly should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetEquity View Post
    Yeah, somebody from Baldung certainly should.
    No need to be snide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuniko View Post
    No need to be snide.
    No need to be lazy and make worthless posts telling other people what they should do. And we will disagree on what I need to be. Snide doesn't even begin to cover what I think of your posts.
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