Results 1 to 10 of 21

Thread: If…..

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Renathras's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Posts
    2,747
    Character
    Ren Thras
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    I don’t really understand how this would make sense.
    Much as I'd love a Feo Ul summon...Seraph as the "true" Lily actually makes a lot of sense. You also summon HER for SCH's L3 LB.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF2NrrJB8zA
    (Hm...that video doesn't show it as well. Though the AST one there is amazing - it always is - especially with the music...)

    Better video/timestamp to see Seraph: https://youtu.be/waTYGA99W4M?t=64

    Can also see it in this one here: https://youtu.be/3PdR6PqEbyM?t=189
    And the wide view here you can also see two smaller ones spiraling out, maybe representing Eos and Selene: https://youtu.be/3PdR6PqEbyM?t=204

    Either way, I could totally buy that Seraph is Lily's true form.

    .

    Though as to the "how would it work" - I'm not sure if Faeries are "constructs". How we summon them is, but SCH lore suggests that each SCH stone, when created, does so by making a PACT with a Faerie, which suggests that they exist independently and weren't created beings. Either that, or they were created but THEN were self-sustaining (enough) and had free will (enough to enter into pacts; and we see Lily have free will in some of the SCH quests, like preventing the killing blow on Curito) that the Scholars then made pacts with them.

    Well...we made a pact with Feo Ul. It's how she's able to travel to the Source in a dream state to visit our Retainers and how she's able to hear us TECHNICALLY anywhere that we go and call on her. Which, by extension, should mean that she's connected to our aethertrail (how we're able to teleport back and forth between Source and First), and between that and the pact with us, we should be able to summon her whenever if she agreed to that. There might be a lore question about why she would only be able to take her smaller form and not her Titania form (easy enough to answer when not on the First, but when ON the First, she presumably should have access to the fullness of her powers), but between the SCH pact with Lily already and seeing how pacts with Voidsent and even Primals can work, I'm pretty sure there is more than a little argument for Feo Ul to be able to use Lily as a medium (provided Lily consented to all this) to come and help us out from time to time.
    (2)

  2. #2
    Player
    Calysto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2019
    Posts
    412
    Character
    Callisto E'elyaa
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    I'm for fairies glam. There are a lot of way it could be implemented, most not as bad as "oh yeah that mount can fly because reasons" (others glams request : anima spirit, elementals/ancient familiars)

    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Much as I'd love a Feo Ul summon...Seraph as the "true" Lily actually makes a lot of sense. You also summon HER for SCH's L3 LB.
    LB3 and Seraph are the one that don't makes sense.
    All abilities are 'fey' themed, then for some reason it turns 'angelic' with seraph, which is the theme of Amdapor, not Nim.

    For the link between pixies and fairies, probably not really related.
    Doing ShB as a SCH there is no "bonus" interaction (RPR get a bit in EW)
    If they are being summoned from a shard, it's probably not the 1st ; also as said fairies qualify as Fey while pixie do as Fae (but races names change in the first so maybe another shard or even somewhere on the source).
    (1)

  3. #3
    Player
    Calysto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2019
    Posts
    412
    Character
    Callisto E'elyaa
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Soo...

    Carbuncle is a step in the right direction I guess ?
    (1)

  4. #4
    Player
    Silver-Strider's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,753
    Character
    Silver Strider
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Calysto View Post
    Soo...

    Carbuncle is a step in the right direction I guess ?
    At least it would do more than SMN's Carbuncle.
    (2)