Myths of the Realm Rewritten

[TheMightyMollusk]

I heard we were rejecting gods and came as fast as I could.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I heard we were rejecting gods and came as fast as I could.

I dont know who this even is, but he looks awful much like Kratos from the first God of War and its recent sequel Ragnarok.

[Poporito_Popoto]

I heard we were rejecting gods and came as fast as I could.

Seen in his company:

[TheMightyMollusk]

I dont know who this even is, but he looks awful much like Kratos from the first God of War and its recent sequel Ragnarok.

I was talking about games with a young co-worker and he thought the PS4 game really was the first one. I told him that no, the series goes back to PS2.

Him: Oh yeah, I was a little kid back then.

I didn't quite crumble into dust on the spot, but I thought about it.

[Absimiliard]

Yes, I would say so. It is consistent with the dictionary description as well, a being or object that is worshipped as having more than natural attributes and powers. Just because we are ignorant of it, or deny it as being a god because we ourselves don't worship it, or its even presented to us as a non-god, does not mean this entity is not being worshipped and is a god to a subset of people.

Since it matches the definition, it is a god, whether you reject it or not.

Am I to infer then that if an author tells the readers a character being worshipped as a god (or possessing multiple qualities of gods) isn't actually a god, it should be considered one anyway in spite of the author's intent? Because creatures that possess all the qualities of gods but are expressly stated not to be gods are quite common in fiction, as are entities worshipped as gods despite possessing none of the qualities aside from said worship.

In fact, why don't we use Zodiark and Hydaelyn as our examples? Both were originally believed as gods. Both were later revealed to not be gods, yet they clearly possess attributes in line with gods as defined by the dictionary. Are they still gods, when the game tells us outright they aren't?

Not trying to poke fun. I am genuinely curious as to where you draw the line between dictionary definition and writer intent.

[VelKallor]

The WoL is then given the choice to accept this or reject this idea, but regardless of the outcome Nymeia declares that for this to come to pass, an additional check on the Twelve must come into being.

Seeing as youve killed off three of them, that makes it the..what?..The Nine and Three Quarters?..the Eight? The Four and a half?

This looks more ridiculous than your EW rewritten one...

You are being too generous, I havent seen a fwe heap this big since the last election

Good thing aveyond is not a writer on ff14.

Good thing aveyond is not a writer anywhere.

Goodness knows there was certainly no need for me to do this sort of thing back in any other expansion where the writing did not exhaust my patience the way it has in Endwalker. like the femroe drooling over Nophica sequence has just permanently soured me on the storyline.

Then dont play it. Oh lord what am I saying, this is you we are discussing...you will play it and thern tell us all how you could have done better...rrightttt....

[Soge01]

I heard we were rejecting gods and came as fast as I could.

"BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOY!!!!! Now this. THIS is perfection! You can only DREAM to ever become this PERFECT, BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOY!!!!!"

[Zebraoracle]

Seeing as youve killed off three of them, that makes it the..what?..The Nine and Three Quarters?..the Eight? The Four and a half?



You are being too generous, I havent seen a fwe heap this big since the last election



Good thing aveyond is not a writer anywhere.



Then dont play it. Oh lord what am I saying, this is you we are discussing...you will play it and thern tell us all how you could have done better...rrightttt....

I seriously wonder what he hopes to get out of this. The guy's clearly unhappy with 14's current state, and you know what? That's completely fair, everyone's entitled to their opinion and can like or dislike whatever. But... when all you do is have negative reactions to literally everything the game does... why do you even bother to keep playing? No matter how much you keep playing, no matter how much you keep complaining, ShB and before aren't going to come back.

And the fact that he only responds to anyone who remotely agrees with him... like clearly he isn't here for discussion, he isn't here to talk about things like a rational person.

[VelKallor]

I seriously wonder what he hopes to get out of this

I have no idea.that whole thing is mega cringe...I read that little screed, and I cant think of anyone who would prefer THAT over the brilliant model we have now. The music is AWESOME ( I get Lord of the Dance feels every time ), it isnt MEANT to be a hard cast hard battle big bad enemy...these are the Twelve, it was a joy to play those..it also was interesting to see what they had to say..remember Gaius' comments?

"Call the Twelve down"

as we now know they

do not interfere with mortal realms and their affairs

. It actually makes perfect sense..we HAVE to stand on our own.

. The guy's clearly unhappy with 14's current state, and you know what? That's completely fair, everyone's entitled to their opinion and can like or dislike whatever. But... when all you do is have negative reactions to literally everything the game does... why do you even bother to keep playing? No matter how much you keep playing, no matter how much you keep complaining, ShB and before aren't going to come back.

You know it. I know it. He doesnt. My God..the music alone has been..a celebration, joyous, merry..dont we deserve a little less drama after all; we have seen and done? Battle's over, now we learn to live again.

Lifes a GIFT. CELEBRATE

And the fact that he only responds to anyone who remotely agrees with him... like clearly he isn't here for discussion, he isn't here to talk about things like a rational person.

He is here to tell us what HE thinks the game should be.

Its getting kind of...old

[Ath192]

Am I to infer then that if an author tells the readers a character being worshipped as a god (or possessing multiple qualities of gods) isn't actually a god, it should be considered one anyway in spite of the author's intent? Because creatures that possess all the qualities of gods but are expressly stated not to be gods are quite common in fiction, as are entities worshipped as gods despite possessing none of the qualities aside from said worship.

In fact, why don't we use Zodiark and Hydaelyn as our examples? Both were originally believed as gods. Both were later revealed to not be gods, yet they clearly possess attributes in line with gods as defined by the dictionary. Are they still gods, when the game tells us outright they aren't?

Not trying to poke fun. I am genuinely curious as to where you draw the line between dictionary definition and writer intent.

The problem with this take is that entities do not choose whether they are gods or not, its collective faith that does. If the people in Eorzea worship these beings they are gods to them. However, if an entity has god like qualities, but isn't worshipped, then it is not a god, because the aspect of faith is missing.

If the author does not consider them gods that is because they reject them as such, not because they are not gods to their worshippers. Also, a god can have multiple statuses, they can be an ascian and a god, a primal and a god etc..

I don't know if I missed this but you must have a concrete definition of what a god is, with a set of criteria, if you don't, then how could you possibly know what is or isnt a god let alone claim an entity is or isnt? And if your criteria is whatever the author tells you then... thats you.. he's your dictionary, but I'll stick to the approved definition as stated in the Merriam Webster dictionary.