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    At this point I don't take any of those blurbs seriously anymore because they've developed a history of trying to sell things as being more significant then they actually are in reality.

    The fact that they're having them on every MSQ patch now really reeks of them trying to forcibly hype things up and keep people invested in the story until the next big thing arrives.

    As far as the Twelve go, I really hope they throw a curveball and aren't just going for the obvious "Hydaelyn made them" angle.
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    Can we like... just not do this ? /yawn
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    Good thing aveyond is not a writer on ff14. I think I would have dropped the game if cringe fanfic was the level of the game's writing at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Good thing aveyond is not a writer on ff14. I think I would have dropped the game if cringe fanfic was the level of the game's writing at this point.
    at least he will save this dying game!
    I do wonder what he'll complain about next.
    Maybe role quests
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    at least he will save this dying game!
    I do wonder what he'll complain about next.
    Maybe role quests
    I mean, the role quests are definitely inferior to most of the old job quests. I don't think anyone in their right mind would try to dispute that one. The loss of that personal touch you got in the job quests did them no favors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    I mean, the role quests are definitely inferior to most of the old job quests. I don't think anyone in their right mind would try to dispute that one. The loss of that personal touch you got in the job quests did them no favors.
    hey, that's for him to complain about and not you.
    Stop trying to be aveyond-lite
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    At this point I'm just tired of gods in general. There was no need for SE to make them so... integral. Every single member of the Twelve could die in the next patch for all I care. In fact, I would be quite content with the story if the WoL were for some reason to be forced to kill them all - permanently.

    I'm also tired of the done-to-death trope of mankind overthrowing gods, but in this case I think I would prefer it to the setup we have now.
    Umm...God's or godlike beings are generally always integral in FF games sooo...

    If there's no reason for them to be integral (you know if we leave out their importance to the world be currectly have in XIV) then there's no reason to kill them off either (in this case there actually is no reason other than you personal distain).

    Can't be tired of a troupe but then advocate for it. Just makes the entire thing pointless tbh. If he gods are that bad skip the raid and gear up elsewhere. You'd probably enjoy that far more
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Umm...God's or godlike beings are generally always integral in FF games sooo...

    If there's no reason for them to be integral (you know if we leave out their importance to the world be currectly have in XIV) then there's no reason to kill them off either (in this case there actually is no reason other than you personal distain).

    Can't be tired of a troupe but then advocate for it. Just makes the entire thing pointless tbh. If he gods are that bad skip the raid and gear up elsewhere. You'd probably enjoy that far more
    FF1, FF2, FF3, FF4, FF5, FF7, FF8, FF9, FF10

    Just to name a few Final Fantasy games that had no need of gods or beings filling a similar niche. There are others. Point being, the gods are not "generally" integral. There are in fact more FF games that don't rely on them than those that do. Note: FF8's Hyne was only a myth, and FF9's Necron is not defined or presented as a god.

    Ya'll really need to get over this, "oh, if you don't like it, go do different content/play a diifferent game/etc." business. That's not a great message to be sending to your fellow players. Besides, the only other gearing option is doing savages, which I already do on my NA alt. Why in the world would I want to do that on my EU alt? My ping on that character is on crack. Having a grievance with what I perceive as the needless inclusion of gods does not mean I shouldn't do do the content. The plot has nothing to do with mechanics.

    This is the first and only time the Twelve have mattered (note: what Louisoix attempted to summon was not the Twelve but rather his own mental representation of them). They were just a myth prior to the 24-man, and they could've remained a myth without in any way damaging the game's preexisting lore. Primals aren't gods. Even Hydaelyn and Zodiark weren't gods, though they certainly wielded tremendous power.
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    Last edited by Absimiliard; 02-23-2023 at 02:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
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    You can think what you want of the ARaid story all you want, that's your right. I'm not super interested in the current one myself, but I personally don't really care since it's an ARaid, to me it's just side content. However, and like I said earlier in this thread, OP is known for spouting off just complete negativity about the game to the point of being unhinged, like just look at his edgy teenager fanfic re-writing of the ARaid's story. Look at all of his previous threads. I've said it before and I'll continue saying it, I originally agreed with some of his points regarding EW's story. That doesn't mean I have to continue to agree with, or even defend, him now when all he's doing is being completely ridiculous. At this point, people come to these threads because of the clownfiesta that they are right out of the gate.

    And look, he even did what I predicted he'd do in my first post in this thread - he only responds to people who agree with him, he's not here for discussion, he's not here for debate, he's here to complain and hear himself talk and commiserate with anyone who has remotely the same feelings as he does. How'd I predict it? Because he does it literally every single time he makes a complaint thread - because that's ALL he makes, whining about how awful 14 is and how back in the day it was so much better.

    Do I disagree with you about being tired of gods in general? Not really. Do I see you making unhinged threads about it? Not at all. The entire "controversy" in this thread is because of who OP is and what his track record is. Go make a similar topic yourself, don't post a freaking teenage fanfic rewrite of the story, and actually bring up your points and be willing to discuss stuff with people, and I guarantee your thread will be like night and day to this one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Im sorry but youre really stretching here with the no gods thing. I think the point of the posters argument is that every FF game you had to deal with ultimately powerful beings akin to gods. So Chaos, The Emperor, Cloud of Darkness, Zeromus, Exdeath, Sephiroth, Ultimecia, Necron, and Sin are just as prominent with their power as what we would perceive as "gods".

    The typical jrpg formula is always has been this.
    It's been a while since I've played any of the 1-10 games, but... what literal god was the villain of 6? Wasn't Kefka the final boss? I don't remember, but if we're describing him as a god... why not Chaos, Exdeath, and Sin? IIRC Sin was almost literally a god-like being. I don't know, like I said it's been a hot minute for me.
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    Last edited by Zebraoracle; 02-23-2023 at 02:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    It's been a while since I've played any of the 1-10 games, but... what literal god was the villain of 6? Wasn't Kefka the final boss? I don't remember, but if we're describing him as a god... why not Chaos, Exdeath, and Sin? IIRC Sin was almost literally a god-like being. I don't know, like I said it's been a hot minute for me.
    Kefka absorbed the power of the Warring Triad and by the time you fight him at the end he is the literal god of magic. His death destroys magic across that world. Terra only survives because she holds on to her half human side.

    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    Necron
    He's past god tier. He's the personification of entropy in the universe.
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