why is the p8s loot so expensive?

[Curisu]

If one can't manage to get a static to guarantee full Savage BiS in a timely manner, they're just asking for a bad time with Ultimate.

This, if someone is not able to clear savage in a timely manner, then they are most likely not able to get far in a fresh ultimate.

I remember PF being nice enough to pass on loot when someone still needed it, and when that player did well.
I had my first BiS usually ready after 6 weeks when doing PF.

[Arohk]

I had my first BiS usually ready after 6 weeks when doing PF.

That also depends on how many itemslots you need from tomestones + upgrading them, when you're in a static usually all the DPS gets their stuff first so i went 3-4 weeks without getting anything from raids.

[Curisu]

That also depends on how many itemslots you need from tomestones + upgrading them, when you're in a static usually all the DPS gets their stuff first so i went 3-4 weeks without getting anything from raids.

But the thing is, I didn't clear a Tier week one in PF, it usually took 2-6 weeks, depending on fight and personal time.
But by the moment I cleared, many player already had the weapon and chest and would be nice enough to pass on it.


But also, It is just completely stupid of SE to make the savage chestpiece BiS for ALL job's.
It never was that bad.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

If one can't manage to get a static to guarantee full Savage BiS in a timely manner, they're just asking for a bad time with Ultimate.

Someone who'd be genuinely good players to have for a fresh ultimate but had to depart until like a week before the ultimate came out would need to be binned then unless being fed all the gear + some luck for a week or two.

I think that's kinda sad, I have a couple of ppl who are like that right now. They came a bit late to the party to no fault of their own and are behind on gearing, but I have done Ultimates with them and they are basically entirely gated by gear right now.

[Liam_Harper]

chest coffer could stand to be lowered to 6, but weapons should remain at 8 books.

as always, the faster people get what they want, the faster they leave. if they leave, they may not come back.

My sub is expiring just before 6.4 and nonsense like this is one of the reasons why. BiS is nice to have, but up to 2 months after clearing the current raid tier in a game where you aren't even allowed to see your performance or damage for a weapon only +5ilv over tome? Absolutely not.

If you got your weapon faster, you'd simply start going for BiS again with an alt. Nice variety with a small end goal.

What do you need the final raid loot for other than to run the final raid faster?

Precisely.

So why the heck is it on such a lofty pedestal?

(But let's be honest, we all know the real reason. People farm BiS for fflogs. Chasing logs isn't to show off either, no one else cares, but more of a goal for personal accomplishment and something to keep content that is otherwise completely pointless worth running long term. SE just can't acknowledge it. Silly grinds for gear isn't keeping raiders logged for Savage long term. Logs and "evil" third party is.)

[DrWho2010]

a very small percentage of people would "go for BiS again with an alt". again vocal minority.

Clearing a savage tier is on a lofty pedestal because, well it's basically the next highest thing to clearing the ultimates.

People doing parse runs are an even smaller amount of people. again. vocal minority.

[Curisu]

Someone who'd be genuinely good players to have for a fresh ultimate but had to depart until like a week before the ultimate came out would need to be binned then unless being fed all the gear + some luck for a week or two.

I think that's kinda sad, I have a couple of ppl who are like that right now. They came a bit late to the party to no fault of their own and are behind on gearing, but I have done Ultimates with them and they are basically entirely gated by gear right now.

To enter the ultimate you need to have the current savage cleared.
And if you have a group for ultimate but are late for the gearing, then you just do it once with that static and get all the loot.
And the ultimate will not be cleared within a week, so you have multiple weeks to get the BiS.

[Asari5]

it doesnt really affect me. i need the raid gear for the next savage tier so i have plenty of time for my one job.

still think it needs to be different for players who play more than one job. i mean there are even players who would help out in other groups as a healer or tank, but they cant because they dont have the gear.

[dspguy]

i mean its pretty strange how a game with one of the big selling points is that you can play 20 jobs on one character is so unsupportive towards playing several of them.... while its easy to catch up ion one job, its a hassle to gear up more than one.

It isn't like you level one job to 90 and all jobs are 90. And it isn't like you equip one job with BiS and should have BiS for all jobs either. Nor do you need to run Ultimate on 20 jobs. I'm just grateful I don't have to do MSQ 20 different times on 20 different jobs.