Gold Saucer issues

[Elevin]

With the amount of items that you can earn at the gold saucer increasing every few patches it seems, the one thing that hasn't changed since I started playing is the amount of MGP you can reasonably earn each week. Personally, since I started playing in October 21, I have almost everything save for the most recent 4 million MGP mount and the cards which I am working on.

Now, MGP wise, there are a few things that I feel need an increase in pay-outs.

Triple Triad Open Tournament

about 10 minutes of game with a 3-5 minute wait in a queue every 2 hours. The winner gets around 2k MGP and a few Gold Loot boxes depending on RNG which don't exchange for much. Compare this to the gates which can be done in less time and other than every way the wind blows, you can get a maximum pay-out with skill in less time which can be 5k or more MGP. If you lose, the pay-outs are even worse for the tournament.

I'd suggest doubling the pay outs and increasing the value of the cards you get from the loot boxes.

Jumbo Cactpot

Matching all 4 numbers is nigh impossible, especially considering there is a piece of glam that goes with it that will be virtually impossible for most people to even get since it is solely RNG ,and a 1:9999 chance of matching the numbers.

Disregarding the above, the pay-outs for 1 number matching is too little. Matching 2 numbers still has an incredibly low chance, and since i've started playing almost 1.5 years ago, has never happened which means each week the most MGP an individual gets is less than 4k MGP. Compare this to the mini cactpot which you can usually get several times that amount a week, usually at least coming away with 5k average a day. For such a big event, it's the most anti-climatic event in game just because the chances of winning are minimal...and to put things into perspective. With 3 different numbers a week, that's 3:9999 of winning which translates to winning once every 64 years.

The ring itself should be moved to an achievement tied to the gold saucer such as the 1m Cactpot achievement and the MGP pay-outs increased on a single number winning, and thus increasing other pay-outs, otherwise it just comes off as completely futile to do as a weekly event unless you are aiming for the million MGP achievement.

A permanent way to buy MGP tokens with Tomestones like with the moogle event

I cap poetics every few days and finding that there is nothing worthwhile to buy with them, I have stocked up on relic supplies. Mats are worthless and i'm quite well off as is and have far superior income methods than selling a few mats on the MB. So MGP tokens would be good thing to spend it on, even if it's only 30k MGP for 2k tomestones as an example. This would go a long way to helping players catch up with the gold saucer grind as there was recently the Zeppelin mount introduced for 4m MGP compared to the prior most expensive mount only being 2m MGP.

[DrWho2010]

gold saucer is meant to be played over the lifetime of the games entirety. meaning it will always be there, it is never going away, therefore it should pay out as little as possible because if you get what you want right away you will stop going.

[Elevin]

gold saucer is meant to be played over the lifetime of the games entirety. meaning it will always be there, it is never going away, therefore it should pay out as little as possible because if you get what you want right away you will stop going.

I don't think i'll be alive in 64 years.

[Elevin]

gold saucer is meant to be played over the lifetime of the games entirety. meaning it will always be there, it is never going away, therefore it should pay out as little as possible because if you get what you want right away you will stop going.

also, you quite literally ignored all my arguments in my post which were namely the pay-outs for events being too low relative to time and other events

[DrWho2010]

also, you quite literally ignored all my arguments in my post which were namely the pay-outs for events being too low relative to time and other events

that was the point. i refute all of your arguments entirely. removing impediments makes things too easy.

[Elevin]

that was the point. i refute all of your arguments entirely. removing impediments makes things too easy.

Okay account from 2013. Lets make them spend decades trying to win a lottery, and spend several years to earn MGP to buy the ever increasing number of rewards.

[dspguy]

gold saucer is meant to be played over the lifetime of the games entirety. meaning it will always be there, it is never going away, therefore it should pay out as little as possible because if you get what you want right away you will stop going.

Bingo.

Take Jumbo Cactpot. As far as earning 1M MGP for the achievement (or just a weekly source of MGP), the average player will earn 1M cumulative MGP from the Jumbo within 2.5 years or earlier if they use Gold VIP Tickets to increase payout. And given the odds of non-1st prize winnings, the average weekly winnings is 7500 MGP. Sure, many will be around 4,000 (turn in early and/or use a VIP ticket). But those 4th prizes and a lucky 3rd prize add up and make the average payout closer to 7500/week.

As for the time it takes to earn rewards, I've done most of what can be done at the Gold Saucer - achievements and prizes. I still have 2.5M MGP leftover after buying the 4M MGP mount. Honestly, there really wasn't much to spend MGP on in this expansion. The 4M MGP mount was big, but prior to that, it was mostly small things. Some TT cards for example.

MGP is something you can grind if you want to, but for many players, the better way to do it is work towards a short-term goal and then keep doing it even when you don't want something so you have the MGP when something comes along that you do want. Do those weekly challenge log items, mini-cactpot, jumbo-cactpot, etc. There's probably an easy 100k/week from doing very little. Add up some of the challenges in the challenge log, maybe do the TT tournament every other week (that gets a bonus just for doing 10 TT matches). Do 3 choco races and win 1. Do 1 Open Tournament. Do a few GATEs for the log plus get the bonus for completing them.

Fashion Report alone gives 10k for just showing up.

Then your average Jumbo for the week gives about 7500 (long-term) and your daily mini-cactpot yields about 30k/week or 36k/week if you use VIP tickets. And then there is the usually at least once per expansion Make It Rain campaign where nearly all winnings double.

Lots of ways to earn MGP without grinding for hours on just one aspect of it.

[UkcsAlias]

gold saucer is meant to be played over the lifetime of the games entirety. meaning it will always be there, it is never going away, therefore it should pay out as little as possible because if you get what you want right away you will stop going.

It takes 10 years to get a chance of less than 15% of obtaining the jackpot.
This is how badly the odds are. If we take the lifetime of the best possible online games, we dont exceed 30 years. And even in that duration, the odds are below 50%. Dedication is NOT being rewarded here at all. Thats just for 1 glam! As MGP can be farmed (and over time will stockpile), the glam cant, so you are entirely depending on this jackpot.

[aveyond-dreams]

A permanent way to buy MGP tokens with Tomestones like with the moogle event

I cap poetics every few days and finding that there is nothing worthwhile to buy with them, I have stocked up on relic supplies. Mats are worthless and i'm quite well off as is and have far superior income methods than selling a few mats on the MB. So MGP tokens would be good thing to spend it on, even if it's only 30k MGP for 2k tomestones as an example. This would go a long way to helping players catch up with the gold saucer grind as there was recently the Zeppelin mount introduced for 4m MGP compared to the prior most expensive mount only being 2m MGP.

1000 times this. I prefer to do battle content first and foremost and generally despise minigames, being able to grind MGP while doing an activity that I actually find enjoyable would be a welcome addition.

[DrWho2010]

it's not my fault you only decided to start playing the game last year