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  1. #51
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    Elevin's Avatar
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    Mai Sakurajimaa
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    Lich
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    Miner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    because you're not supposed to be getting everything available (why would want/need to have 1 of everything from the vendors) and certainly not right away and certainly not in any amount of short timespan. deliberate design decision. again, just because you start playing the game later does not give you license to demand everything asap.
    lol... okay 2013, I am certainly not asking for things to be handed to me on a silver plater, on the contrary, grinding for a reward can be a good thing. The problem as I pointed out quite clearly is that the devs have no time frame an average player should be able to accumulate MGP relative to the value of the prizes. If they say that they want the average player to take 3 years earning this stuff, then they need to increase those pay-outs accordingly to match that. The fact is that they don't seem to have a timescale in mind, and have added several million in rewards without increasing pay-outs. But the vast majority of people here are suggesting that such a thing need not happen and the one thing that you all have in common is that all your forum join dates suggests you have been playing this game for a long time... hence why your arguments come across as skewed and not really arguments as well as suggesting ridiculous things like wondrous tails and the Gold Saucer summer grind event. (I thought Yoshi P wanted people to be able to switch of the game and not spend their lives grinding in it).

    My other arguments that have mostly been ignored was that some of the pay-outs are too low relative to time spent like with the open tournament for triple triad and should be increased. It seems the devs don't take into consideration time:reward. Hell, even if you make first place, you only get 2-3k max (trading cards in) for a tournmanet that can last up to 10 minutes. In that same time frame, you can make 5k from Leap of Faith for less than 5 minutes. On top of the Jumbo Cactpot glam which should be a reward from the achievement.

    Now you can all bleat on like sheep that the devs have increased rewards in the past and will do so in the future...but it hasn't happened in the 1.5 years I have been playing despite the drastic increases in prize values. I honestly wish i had as much faith as you guys do in the devs...unfortunately this is the best but worst game i've ever played in my life. The best because story wise, social wise and game design wise, it is the best. The worst, since the user experience is god awful and something as simple as the retainer management at best had 1 tiny update that doesn't fix the fundamental issues of retainers...which is the terrible UX of them for a start. Lets not even get started on FC banks and other elements such as the friends list taking 10 seconds to load.


    Anyway, i'm going to checkout of the forums now. They're pretty much dead with a few hangers on.
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  2. #52
    Player
    BRVV's Avatar
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    Viz Vale
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    Spriggan
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Elevin View Post
    *snip*
    Translation: crying and insults

    Status: Subject not willing to engage in discussion, ignoring responses.

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    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

  3. #53
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    Darkmoonrise's Avatar
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    Darkmoonrise Valky
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    Moogle
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    Sage Lv 90
    And back to 10M!

    Let's make some math :
    • The "Blackjack" mount came out January the 19th, that's 97 days ago. That's 14 weeks.
    • The mount cost 4M, so I made 4M in those 14 weeks.
    • I logged the time spent there and, by doing only the log book challenges (see this post for more details), it takes approximately 2h per week.
    • side note 1: I didn't win the 1M with the Jumbo Cactpot
    • side note 2: I did spent some MGP on the side for stuff like chocobo meal or cards but negligible next to the 4M.
    • side note 3: I did miss a Verminion tournament and maybe 1-2 entries in the challenge log.

    That means, if you smartly grind, you can earn

    285k MGP per week or 142k MGP per hour
    So we now have numbers, I let make your personal opinion if this is enough or not.
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    Last edited by Darkmoonrise; 04-26-2023 at 06:12 PM.

  4. #54
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    dspguy's Avatar
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmoonrise View Post
    And back to 10M!

    So we now have numbers, I let make your personal opinion if this is enough or not.
    Thanks for sharing this here. For anyone that is not the OP, they'd likely recognize it as great information and lines up with what other posters have mentioned: Earning MGP is only a grind if you allow it to be.
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