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    Gold Saucer issues

    With the amount of items that you can earn at the gold saucer increasing every few patches it seems, the one thing that hasn't changed since I started playing is the amount of MGP you can reasonably earn each week. Personally, since I started playing in October 21, I have almost everything save for the most recent 4 million MGP mount and the cards which I am working on.

    Now, MGP wise, there are a few things that I feel need an increase in pay-outs.

    Triple Triad Open Tournament

    about 10 minutes of game with a 3-5 minute wait in a queue every 2 hours. The winner gets around 2k MGP and a few Gold Loot boxes depending on RNG which don't exchange for much. Compare this to the gates which can be done in less time and other than every way the wind blows, you can get a maximum pay-out with skill in less time which can be 5k or more MGP. If you lose, the pay-outs are even worse for the tournament.

    I'd suggest doubling the pay outs and increasing the value of the cards you get from the loot boxes.

    Jumbo Cactpot

    Matching all 4 numbers is nigh impossible, especially considering there is a piece of glam that goes with it that will be virtually impossible for most people to even get since it is solely RNG ,and a 1:9999 chance of matching the numbers.

    Disregarding the above, the pay-outs for 1 number matching is too little. Matching 2 numbers still has an incredibly low chance, and since i've started playing almost 1.5 years ago, has never happened which means each week the most MGP an individual gets is less than 4k MGP. Compare this to the mini cactpot which you can usually get several times that amount a week, usually at least coming away with 5k average a day. For such a big event, it's the most anti-climatic event in game just because the chances of winning are minimal...and to put things into perspective. With 3 different numbers a week, that's 3:9999 of winning which translates to winning once every 64 years.

    The ring itself should be moved to an achievement tied to the gold saucer such as the 1m Cactpot achievement and the MGP pay-outs increased on a single number winning, and thus increasing other pay-outs, otherwise it just comes off as completely futile to do as a weekly event unless you are aiming for the million MGP achievement.

    A permanent way to buy MGP tokens with Tomestones like with the moogle event

    I cap poetics every few days and finding that there is nothing worthwhile to buy with them, I have stocked up on relic supplies. Mats are worthless and i'm quite well off as is and have far superior income methods than selling a few mats on the MB. So MGP tokens would be good thing to spend it on, even if it's only 30k MGP for 2k tomestones as an example. This would go a long way to helping players catch up with the gold saucer grind as there was recently the Zeppelin mount introduced for 4m MGP compared to the prior most expensive mount only being 2m MGP.
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    gold saucer is meant to be played over the lifetime of the games entirety. meaning it will always be there, it is never going away, therefore it should pay out as little as possible because if you get what you want right away you will stop going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    gold saucer is meant to be played over the lifetime of the games entirety. meaning it will always be there, it is never going away, therefore it should pay out as little as possible because if you get what you want right away you will stop going.
    I don't think i'll be alive in 64 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    gold saucer is meant to be played over the lifetime of the games entirety. meaning it will always be there, it is never going away, therefore it should pay out as little as possible because if you get what you want right away you will stop going.
    also, you quite literally ignored all my arguments in my post which were namely the pay-outs for events being too low relative to time and other events
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elevin View Post
    A permanent way to buy MGP tokens with Tomestones like with the moogle event

    I cap poetics every few days and finding that there is nothing worthwhile to buy with them, I have stocked up on relic supplies. Mats are worthless and i'm quite well off as is and have far superior income methods than selling a few mats on the MB. So MGP tokens would be good thing to spend it on, even if it's only 30k MGP for 2k tomestones as an example. This would go a long way to helping players catch up with the gold saucer grind as there was recently the Zeppelin mount introduced for 4m MGP compared to the prior most expensive mount only being 2m MGP.
    1000 times this. I prefer to do battle content first and foremost and generally despise minigames, being able to grind MGP while doing an activity that I actually find enjoyable would be a welcome addition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elevin View Post
    also, you quite literally ignored all my arguments in my post which were namely the pay-outs for events being too low relative to time and other events
    that was the point. i refute all of your arguments entirely. removing impediments makes things too easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    that was the point. i refute all of your arguments entirely. removing impediments makes things too easy.
    Okay account from 2013. Lets make them spend decades trying to win a lottery, and spend several years to earn MGP to buy the ever increasing number of rewards.
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    Last edited by Elevin; 02-20-2023 at 07:29 PM.

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    it's not my fault you only decided to start playing the game last year
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    So there is a chance you are wildly under-estimating "the amount of MGP you can reasonably earn each week". The FF 15 crossover event has run a couple times now, with the car costing 200k MGP(and a few other rewards adding the total required to around 300k if you wanted everything). Each time people less familiar with the saucer have come to the boards to either complain about how they could never earn that much in the 4-6 weeks the event was running or to learn how to get that much quickly. Well it turns out that with less then 2 hours a week(im not in game right now to put together the actual minutes required) you can make well over 250k MGP. If you spend your saucer time wisely you can hit 125-150k in roughly 30 mins(between prizes and challenge log payouts).

    Also while you are correct that the list of rewards is ever growing, they actually add items to it very slowly. This entire expansion(6.0-current in 6.3) theyve added less then 5 mil worth of rewards, and as you yourself noted 4 mil of those are the one new mount. The entire Shadowbringers cycle was maybe 3.5 mil, and 2 of that was in the sabotender mount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frizze View Post
    So there is a chance you are wildly under-estimating "the amount of MGP you can reasonably earn each week".
    Yeah. While there's no fast way to farm infinite MGP, you can easily get 150-200k per week even with minimal effort. 60k from the fashion report (5 minutes), 60-80k from the challenge log (maybe 20 minutes if you ignore some of the more time consuming ones like 20 races and mahjong), GATEs (you'd be doing them for the challenge log anyway), cactpot (2 minutes per day/week.) It'll still take a while to get 4 million, but it's hardly an impossible task for a new player.
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