The Definition of "Handsome"

[Boblawblah]

It's an energy that encompasses traits, demeanor, qualities, and attributes characteristic of a male.

Two questions

1. Could you tell us what those traits/demeanor/qualities/attributes are?

2. Are the above a biological truth for males? Or more of a "that's just the way men traditionally were" thing?

[Gemina]

Two questions

1. Could you tell us what those traits/demeanor/qualities/attributes are?

A quick Google search will provide that, and I would agree with many of them. Examples would be stoicism, aggressiveness, creativity, assertiveness, dominant/domineering, opposite of feminine.

2. Are the above a biological truth for males? Or more of a "that's just the way men traditionally were" thing?

If you read up on masculinity, it will tell you that the behavioral aspect of it is a social construct, and both sexes are capable of exhibiting these traits. As such, this portion is subject for debate. While there is truth to that, the thing is there still has to be a distinction between what is masculine and what is feminine otherwise such debates couldn't even exist. Such as, "Is Zero more masculine, or feminine?" Despite that we all know she is female.

This energy when taking a biological role determines physical traits within a given person that are either masculine or feminine. Broad shoulders, square jaw, tall stature, muscular physique, hirsute, deep voice, robustness. These are physical features that are associated with males. When females have these features, it is determined that they have a masculine appearance.

It because of these reasons why I say masculinity is not subject to an opinion. I am well aware how current education seeks to blur these lines, and obstruct this truth. And I refuse to yield. I will never concede to that nonsense. This distinction is so important to not only education, but to our longevity as species in this universe. Please, never forget.

[aveyond-dreams]

It because of these reasons why I say masculinity is not subject to an opinion. I am well aware how current education seeks to blur these lines, and obstruct this truth. And I refuse to yield. I will never concede to that nonsense. This distinction is so important to not only education, but to our longevity as species in this universe. Please, never forget.

Agreed. What is immediately obvious as to what is masculine or feminine really isn't up for debate. And what is also obvious is that the main cast is in dire need of some testosterone and none of it is coming from the two males we have now. A declawed Estinien and a KPOP singer crying about his sister are the last sort of men I care to put up with, the former because of what an insult it is to see him behave this way after previously enjoying his character and the other because there's nothing in the world that could make me care about his sob story.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

And what is also obvious is that the main cast is in dire need of some testosterone and none of it is coming from the two males we have now. A declawed Estinien and a KPOP singer crying about his sister are the last sort of men I care to put up with,

What game are you even playing at this point?
Estinien was Never Declawed, and we dont have a KPOP Singer in our group. Check your Game File, you might be playing Tokyo Mirage: Sessions

[ZephyrMenodora]

What game are you even playing at this point?
Estinien was Never Declawed, and we dont have a KPOP Singer in our group. Check your Game File, you might be playing Tokyo Mirage: Sessions

He said it's because Estinian wore a ponytail, this he isn't handsome or masculine lol. Because ponytails are always immediately effiminate.

[Raoabolic]

What game are you even playing at this point?
Estinien was Never Declawed, and we dont have a KPOP Singer in our group. Check your Game File, you might be playing Tokyo Mirage: Sessions

To be fair, Estinien has just been reduced to the straight man to the joke in most cases or suddenly competent should the story need it.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

To be fair, Estinien has just been reduced to the straight man to the joke in most cases or suddenly competent should the story need it.

Thats not really DeClawed though.
If he suddenly became useless and literally didnt do anything at ALL, then Id agree.
All of the Scions have been used for Jokes, or are Suddenly Competent when the Story Needs it. This isnt new or specific to Him.

[Boblawblah]

It because of these reasons why I say masculinity is not subject to an opinion. I am well aware how current education seeks to blur these lines, and obstruct this truth. And I refuse to yield. I will never concede to that nonsense. This distinction is so important to not only education, but to our longevity as species in this universe. Please, never forget.

I can understand most of your post (the part I did not quote), but this is where I'm confused.

Are you arguing that blurring what is masculine and feminine is will eventually lead to humans not reproducing? "Please, never forget" what exactly?

[SieyaM]

A quick Google search will provide that, and I would agree with many of them. Examples would be stoicism, aggressiveness, creativity, assertiveness, dominant/domineering, opposite of feminine.


If you read up on masculinity, it will tell you that the behavioral aspect of it is a social construct, and both sexes are capable of exhibiting these traits. As such, this portion is subject for debate. While there is truth to that, the thing is there still has to be a distinction between what is masculine and what is feminine otherwise such debates couldn't even exist. Such as, "Is Zero more masculine, or feminine?" Despite that we all know she is female.

This energy when taking a biological role determines physical traits within a given person that are either masculine or feminine. Broad shoulders, square jaw, tall stature, muscular physique, hirsute, deep voice, robustness. These are physical features that are associated with males. When females have these features, it is determined that they have a masculine appearance.

It because of these reasons why I say masculinity is not subject to an opinion. I am well aware how current education seeks to blur these lines, and obstruct this truth. And I refuse to yield. I will never concede to that nonsense. This distinction is so important to not only education, but to our longevity as species in this universe. Please, never forget.

Not sure I want men to be domineering and aggressive, sounds like a good mix for domestic abuse, and creativity and assertiveness aren't exclusive to men or masculine people. This also took a very strange turn into pseudo-science, most people will exhibit a mix of feminine and masculine traits, no one naturally falls completely into one side or the other.