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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    People who don't want to be in a large FC shouldn't be punished for that nor should they be forced to socialize with people they don't want to for the sake of a house. People who suggest this just bring jealousy as a motivator to my mind since it feels like they want everyone else to be in the same boat as them since they cant/won't leave their own FC. People who have a small friend group have the same right to own a house as those with a large one.

    Also, I had a thought. If we drop ward restrictions, wouldn't the problem just be worse since instead of only having private buyers in one ward and FC buyers in another, you'd have both colliding to bid on houses in the same ward, i.e. providing more competition?
    It was a suggestion based on the fact that people are making shell FCs to get personal houses, which should not be a case if they make a ward for FCs only with larger houses in it.

    My FC has a medium house and I have a small that I'm quite pleased with, so there's no jealousy here. Only serious suggestions.
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  2. #52
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    It's time to update housing. I lost the most recent lottery to an FC. Given the context of this discussion this is ridiculous. My world has tons of vacant 0 bid houses for FCs. Something needs to change. I would rather have no hope than some hope in a system that makes no sense.

    And it is an FC not a private buyer who made an FC just to get a Sm house.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Except fcs SHOULD have priority because they have more players than personal housing, private buyers should wait, not fcs, private buyers are one person, fcs are multiple

    This is a non response. I have already outlined a strategy that would still give your theoretical onslaught on new FCs (that we have not observed for months) a way to access housing (by demolishings) or even in worst cases an extra FC exclusive ward could be added. Yes this may result in some waiting but you're taking about waiting days (demo houses open up next period) and depending on how long the queue grows weeks to months. Private buyers are waiting exponentially longer than that while houses simply aren't being bid on. You are here posting, another period has gone by, I still see wards and wards of unused fc houses and even open spots all the time due to demolishings.

    Please tell us when the current model is going to work. Because it doesn't work. All I see is resistance to models that would work because you seemingly just don't want more people to have houses. You want the most people waiting all the time just in case some exponential and unlikely uptick in fc house requests occurs. As I just learned in my own lottery-- FCs have plenty of options and don't want them (presumably bc their own neighborhoods are less populated in some cases). What we are doing makes no sense. Not only are FCs not bidding on their houses, they're bidding on hybrid wards first.

    You're also not accounting for the myriad players ITT and that I know personally who double dip and have their FC house and personal house. You're claiming it's about number of players when it isn't. It's just about owning the property. Players do not care about efficiency or fairness.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 03-01-2023 at 04:44 AM.

  4. #54
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    Everyone grab your pretzels and carrot sticks because its time for me to repeat these magic words that will solve all of our problems. Clap your hands together and say it with me, ready on 3? One ,two and three!

    "Instanced Housing"

    Very good!! Im so proud of all of you
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Everyone grab your pretzels and carrot sticks because its time for me to repeat these magic words that will solve all of our problems. Clap your hands together and say it with me, ready on 3? One ,two and three!

    "Instanced Housing"

    Very good!! Im so proud of all of you
    Why not have both options?
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    Why not have both options?
    I would like both for sure, just please add in Instanced Housing so everyone can have access to this content.
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    Another way to ease demand for people who want a house for spacing purposes is to perhaps introduce two floor apartments. You wouldn't have a yard or exterior but I assume some people don't care about that.
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    Another way to ease demand for people who want a house for spacing purposes is to perhaps introduce two floor apartments. You wouldn't have a yard or exterior but I assume some people don't care about that.
    Actually they do, since you dont have access to a gardening that way.
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    Harun Asubra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Actually they do, since you dont have access to a gardening that way.
    Technically you just need to unlock Island Sanctuary for that now. They're going to allow IS plots to work with non-IS crops iirc

    So two-story apartments could work.

    *w* more space to decorate too... Though I wonder if they'd increase furniture space too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Technically you just need to unlock Island Sanctuary for that now. They're going to allow IS plots to work with non-IS crops iirc

    So two-story apartments could work.

    *w* more space to decorate too... Though I wonder if they'd increase furniture space too.
    We still have no clue what they mean about gardening in a future IS update since they were being pretty vague about it. Its possible they do mean to just copy the feature into IS which would be great but for now we can only speculate
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