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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    This wouldn't be a problem if the people wearing those titles weren't awful at the game most of the time. Note I say the people wearing them, not the people that have them. Granted, I think part of it can be attributed to overconfidence. Not everyone that wears the title bought it, I think we all know that. Of those that didn't but still choose to wear it all the time, overconfidence often seems to bite them in the behind.

    Doesn't matter how good you are. The second you become overconfident, something can and will come along to make you look like an idiot.
    You are making a ton of assumptions here. Legends are high profile titles people notice, so if you see 10 making mistakes out of the 500 you come across you will start thinking they all suck because you've seen several mess up. Whereas anybody else that doesn't have a legend title could mess up over and over and you wouldn't even remember or care because it's not a prestige title.

    In other words you've found an anchor for your discrimination and every time someone comes along and messes up you think "See?! I was right, there it is!". However, everytime they perform well its just expected and it doesn't register or you wouldn't even remember.

    Basically "selective use of evidence" rejects material unfavorable to an argument. I am not going to dispute a lot of people buy them, in fact I saw a youtube video that shows this is a huge industry. But I think you should treat them as anyone else, because they are just people, so even legit ones may suck as puzzle solving like Rubicante EX but excel at other areas like consistency once a mechanic is mastered.

    People wearing those titles doesn't mean they are good or bad, and they have all different reasons for wearing or not wearing them. The only difference is that wearing them gives you something to latch on to, and when you are looking for only bad things you will find them. The only other possible outcome here is that they don't mess up and you quickly forget, so of course you're only going to have bad things to say about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    You are making a ton of assumptions here. Legends are high profile titles people notice, so if you see 10 making mistakes out of the 500 you come across you will start thinking they all suck because you've seen several mess up. Whereas anybody else that doesn't have a legend title could mess up over and over and you wouldn't even remember or care because it's not a prestige title.
    Seems to me you're making quite a few assumptions yourself. Did you notice that nowhere did I say everyone with a Legend title sucks? Has it not occurred to you that stereotypes tend to have a basis in fact? Making note that an inordinate number of people that go out of their way to flaunt their BK crowns and/or Legend titles wind up getting killed by dumb crap is not discrimination, nor is it an inference about people that have mentor crowns or Legend titles.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
    "You wear a Legend title, I'll keep a very close eye on you to see if you're worthy. Oh no, you made a mistake. I expected better of you but you have disappointed me. I, the stranger on the internet, hereby judge you unworthy, you made a fool of yourself. Run away in shame, fool!"
    Other way around, actually. I expect everyone I group with, regardless of what title they wear, to perform abysmally. I don't bother to look at character names, let alone titles. Until they die, anyway. When they die, I will usually take a look to see what kind of gear they have. In the process of this, I'll of course notice their name and title. And you know what? It's usually either somebody that's obviously new, a mentor, or someone with the Legend title. Of these three demographics, the one that dies most often is definitely the mentor.

    Put simply, this game's content isn't all that difficult. It's all memorization and pattern recognition. I see no reason to view Legend titles as anything special and will therefore continue to see them as nothing special, while occasionally pausing to wonder why it is the ones that are so intent on flaunting them (flaunting being different from wearing, for those that appear somehow unaware of this fact) die so often.

    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Interesting stuff that definitely isn't fabricated
    I'm sure nothing in this post is exaggerated or untrue at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    I'm sure nothing in this post is exaggerated or untrue at all.
    Here's the source material, you tell me?

    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Weird. I am the business owner of a multimillion dollar small business that relies on social skills. I’ve been married for 16 years and am active in my local community.

    But of course a cheater sympathizer would type something like this.
    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Who says I’m mad? Amused maybe. Way to go with more baseless assumptions. This thread doesn’t impact me whatsoever.

    When you’ve accomplished as much as I have irl you can keep petty video game threads in perspective. And certainly observe actual antisocial tendencies on game forums lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Lol. Well you certainly sound quite inexperienced with life and actual leadership so I believe you. I honestly don’t care if you believe me, doesn’t change my wonderful life. I only replied to your personal attack as it made me laugh how off base you are.


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    Aww. 10char
    This is you right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Oh Zephyr!


    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Lesser beast snap and howl at the chance to have one of your quotes become someone else's signature, only real forumites have the wisdom and clarity to embrace being unhinged for its own sake!


    I dont know where I'm going with this.
    Well, I can say when I'm being unhinged, I'm totally self aware as I'm posting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Care to tell me what point you think you have, posting just a bunch of my comments from page 8, out of context that were a response to a personal attack, that we already went back and forth over? The two of us specifically? 53 pages later in the conversation?

    But sure, I'm the clown here lol.

    Edit: Actually, nevermind. I really don't care to understand how your mind functions right now. None of this was ever relevant to the topic and still isn't, let alone 50 pages later.
    I mean this thread might as well be dead. Everyone in it is just going around in circles, arguing the same points over and over again. The thread should probably be locked at this point, so there's no harm in me adding a little spice to it, right?

    Although, it's kind of funny that I managed to get you to admit that your own personal navy seal copypasta that you posted in response to legitimate points earlier in this thread is irrelevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    Man, I must be way worse at conveying sarcasm over text than I thought.
    I understood you, just choose to interpret it otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    I mean this thread might as well be dead. Everyone in it is just going around in circles, arguing the same points over and over again. The thread should probably be locked at this point, so there's no harm in me adding a little spice to it, right?

    Although, it's kind of funny that I managed to get you to admit that your own personal navy seal copypasta that you posted in response to legitimate points earlier in this thread is irrelevant.


    I understood you, just choose to interpret it otherwise.
    I always said it was irrelevant. Just like the personal attack that prompted it to begin with. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Well, I can say when I'm being unhinged, I'm totally self aware as I'm posting.
    It's okay, half the forum is unhinged on a regular basis and nearly everyone dips their toes into it now and then.

    Anyways this thread needs to die, nothing good has come of it nor will at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    It's okay, half the forum is unhinged on a regular basis and nearly everyone dips their toes into it now and then.
    *nods*

    We're all just a little bit mad around here. Some of us are more mad than others but that's okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Here's the source material, you tell me?





    Man, I must be way worse at conveying sarcasm over text than I thought.
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