Need advice: static imploding because of cheater.

[Stormpeaks]

If I knew for a fact someone was cheating whether it affects me or not and did nothing about it then I'm complicit in their actions and indirectly support their choices which does bother me as I have no desire to be apart of that. That is my choice as much as it is theirs to cheat.

Oh no, whatever will happen ? You are "complicit" of their actions, are you going to end up behind bars and go to court because someone else used a zoom hack or made them glam look cuter than their character is ?

Let me ask a hypothetical question, if we did lose Ultimate over these players and potentially others down the line would that not bother you in any way?

It would, yes, but that wouldnt be because of "these players", it would be because of Yoshi P and every dev that was involved in taking that decision. If we have to remove every piece of content that can be ""cheated"", then remove roulettes,pvp,extremes,ultimates,crafting and gathering, and let us just sit in limsa all day.

[CrimsonThunder]

Oh no, whatever will happen ? You are "complicit" of their actions, are you going to end up behind bars and go to court because someone else used a zoom hack or made them glam look cuter than their character is ?

We both know I'm not talking about glam mods or anything of the sort. You're just reaching at that point.

[Stormpeaks]

We both know I'm not talking about glam mods or anything of the sort. You're just reaching at that point.

I said hacks too

[CrimsonThunder]

I said hacks too

And if you don't think it constitutes an advantage of any sort then that's fine but there are those who disagree. You're not going to change any minds here and vice versa so this is all just noise anyway.

[Stormpeaks]

And if you don't think it constitutes an advantage of any sort then that's fine but there are those who disagree. You're not going to change any minds here and vice versa so this is all just noise anyway.

That's not what I said, I just said it doesnt impact me personally if someone uses it because I wouldnt even know it

[CrimsonThunder]

That's not what I said, I just said it doesnt impact me personally if someone uses it because I wouldnt even know it

But what if they did decide to remove Ultimate or something similar because of it? You can blame the devs if you want but it was simply a reaction to what the players were doing when they had the choice not to. At that point it would affect you and you chose to do nothing.

[Saraide]

But what if they did decide to remove Ultimate or something similar because of it? You can blame the devs if you want but it was simply a reaction to what the players were doing when they had the choice not to. At that point it would affect you and you chose to do nothing.

That would be not smart. SE isnt doing ultimates out of the kindness of their hearts. They know it's content that drives eyes to the game through the world first races and they know ulti raiders will consistently stay subbed through savage and the following ulti patch.

[Zebraoracle]

But what if they did decide to remove Ultimate or something similar because of it? You can blame the devs if you want but it was simply a reaction to what the players were doing when they had the choice not to. At that point it would affect you and you chose to do nothing.

Well the implication of what Storm is saying is if they don't make it known, Square has zero way of knowing about it thus there will be no negative consequences like no more ultimates. That's the whole crux of this - don't ask don't tell and literally no one has any way of knowing who's running mods.

[Rolder50]

But what if they did decide to remove Ultimate or something similar because of it? You can blame the devs if you want but it was simply a reaction to what the players were doing when they had the choice not to. At that point it would affect you and you chose to do nothing.

It would be a reaction to what the players are doing, but it would be a totally overblown and stupid reaction, so therefore it's still on the devs.